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Old 05-22-05, 08:27 PM   #1
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Official approval before i order

So here is the final parts list for my new baby, could you all tell me what you think, concerns, approval: any suggestions for things i should swap out or things that wont work well together?

Frame: Surly Steamroller Frameset 62 cm
Wheel: IRO Wheel Build: Formula Hubs with Aerohead Rims
Cranks: Sugino 75 Crankset with 49t chainring
Cog: EAI 18 teeth
Chain: Wipperman 152
BB: Shiman UN53 68x107
HS: Chris King Threadless
Post: Kalloy Aluminum 27.2x300mm
Stem: Kalloy Uno 100mm (possibly nitto Usgx instead)
Bars: Nitto B123 Chro-mo
Seat: While Selle Italia Turbo

thanks guys...im not gonna order till i get your seal of approval..sor hurry hurry
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sounds sweet!
the only nits i have are kalloy parts, (and that's only 'cause i'm a label *****) and the 49x18; it might make more sense to go with a smaller chainring/cog combo so you have more room to go up or down.

caveat: the thing about the cog/chainring combo is a gut feeling only, and the gut in question is currently playing host to a couple of gin and tonics
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Where are you getting the saddle from?
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Old 05-22-05, 08:40 PM   #4
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i picked it up from nashbar a few months back and put it away
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Gotcha.

Good man. Great saddle.

I thought maybe you'd sourced 'em from the great beyond or something. I'm still in mourning.
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hey boston....i edited it, dunno why ebay came out....finger muscle memory i guess

as far as the geraing goes...sugino 7fs only come with a 49 t ring nowadays...and i dont really want to go much steeper than my current 42x16 setup....this is a nice increase in steepness
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were it up to me, i'd spend a bit less money on the headset and maybe the crankset and a bit more on the hubs.

if you're planning on riding brakeless or skidding/skipping a lot, hubs (rear hub, at least), cog and lockring are not someplace i'd skimp.

while CK headsets feel fantastic and have some fetish points, they don't feel _that_ much nicer than a properly installed and adjusted $20 tange levin headset. the additional confidence which comes from having a wheel under your ass that you know can take some abuse and potholes is priceless.

in terms of cranks, going from a sugino 75 to a sugino RD can save you around $100. obviously not as nice and not 144 bcd, but how important is a true track crank to you?
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headset came on the frame...it was an awesome deal
cranks...i just love the 75s and i know i would regret anything else
as far as hubs...i may actualy be switching for a set of promax...not sure yet, but my inetention is to wait for a phil wood to come up down the road...i just dont feel ready to drop 300 dollars on one wheel
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So here is the final parts list for my new baby, could you all tell me what you think, concerns, approval: any suggestions for things i should swap out or things that wont work well together?

Frame: Surly Steamroller Frameset 62 cm
Wheel: IRO Wheel Build: Formula Hubs with Aerohead Rims
Cranks: Sugino 75 Crankset with 49t chainring.. YOU SHOULD GET A 47 OR 46..
Cog: EAI 18 teeth................................GO FOR A 16 OR 17.. BUT GET A FULL RANGE OF THEM.
Chain: Wipperman 152............................NEVER HEARD OF THEM. SO???
BB: Shiman UN53 68x107 ..I ASSUME THIS SAYS SHIMANO..IF SO GET THE CRANK SHIMANO
HS: Chris King Threadless...I DON'T USE THREADLESS SO NO COMMENT.
Post: Kalloy Aluminum 27.2x300mm
Stem: Stem: Kalloy Uno 100mm (possibly nitto Usgx instead)...... MATCH THE PRODUCT SO GO NITTO
Bars: Nitto B123 Chro-mo
Seat: While Selle Italia Turbo

thanks guys...im not gonna order till i get your seal of approval..sor hurry hurry

MY THOUGHTS..

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Old 05-22-05, 08:59 PM   #10
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cute...what do you think?
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sounds sweet!
the only nits i have are kalloy parts, (and that's only 'cause i'm a label *****) and the 49x18; it might make more sense to go with a smaller chainring/cog combo so you have more room to go up or down.
Your bike deserves better than Kalloy- they usually have those chewing gum welds... and, you might consider an open face stem if you ever want to easily swap out your bars.
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chewing gum welds... an open face stem
Don't those two have some sort of impregnable, symbiotic relationship?
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If you're going to get a UN53 BB I think you should get a 68x110 instead of a 68x107. That way your chainline should only be off by .5mm instead of 1mm, and you can probably put a .5mm spacer on the fixed cup side and have it spot on.
*edit: I just looked at my beater ...it has a Stronglight BB which is essentially a UN53/73 clone... and the fixed cup is on the drive side. So, I guess you should get the 68x107 and put a 1mm spacer on the drive side... And here I thought I was giving good tech advice...

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Also, be aware that the bars you list are 25.4 and require a shim for 26.0 stems. The nitto shim is $10, but you can easily make a shim that works as well out of an aluminum can.
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ahem....the nitto b123 from IRO is 26 mm clamp...seemes weird...but thats what is says
the stem is open faced...and i am still considering that nitto stem

and for the record....i just decided against the IRO wheels...im gonna stick with my current POS suzue basic until i can decide on a real quality wheelset

and as far as the bb/crank chainline issue goes...thats exactly what i said...but the guy at spicer (gene) said that the 107 gave a near perfect chainline...doent make much sense to me...but hey...im betting he knows more than me on the issue...if anybody can recommend any 109 mm bottom brackets for less than say...50 dollars....i definately want suggestions

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i have a steamroller 56cm and i love it man. i dont have the nicest hub tho. but i do have a dura ace cog and lock ring and its only a matter of time before i replace the suzue basic. but man i like your settup. i would stick away from the kalloy also tho.
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ahem....the nitto b123 from IRO is 26 mm clamp...seemes weird...but thats what is says
going against the "I read it on the internet, it's got to be true" theory, I'd bet money they are 25.4. if that is the case I'd splurge on a real shim for those pretty bars. no beer can shims for me, sir!
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and for the record....i just decided against the IRO wheels...im gonna stick with my current POS suzue basic until i can decide on a real quality wheelset

thanks again
ride the suzue's into the ground; if you can manage not to score/pit the races you can pick up a new cone/bearing set for about $15.00 and keep riding them until you strip them.

(you'll probably end up stripping the threads at some point, but hopefully by then you'll have decided what wheelset you want to upgrade to).
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hopefully before then...im riding brakeless and i know its just a matter of time before they strip....my current fornt wheel if fine..some no name sealed hub that only needed truing once before i even rode on it ...in a year....i think ill prolly end up getting just a phil rear eventually....maybe after the pain of this money dump wears off

as for the bars...im gonna shoot tony an email for some more details...i dont think im gonna be buying the bars right away so its not such a big deal...i like my nashbar bullhorns for now....but definately ill get a real shim...whats another 10 bucks?
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cough! spicercycles$12cheaper. cough! andnarrower. cough!
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and as far as the bb/crank chainline issue goes...thats exactly what i said...but the guy at spicer (gene) said that the 107 gave a near perfect chainline...doent make much sense to me...but hey...im betting he knows more than me on the issue...if anybody can recommend any 109 mm bottom brackets for less than say...50 dollars....i definately want suggestions

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107mm works pretty well because it's not the same taper. You actually end up with something just a bit more than 42mm for a chainline (except, perhaps, you hamfists out there). it works, if only a bit inelegantly.
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I'm a bit wary about you riding brakeless with a suzue jr hub in the back. I did so and stripped my dura ace cog right off. That seems to be a pretty common story. Riding that hub into the ground is not recommended!
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ha well ive been riding it brakeless for a year....i hope in can last a few more months

so i take it there are no 109 mm bb suggestions?

tlupfer: arent they both square taper? what is the difference between them? will it damage the cranks to pair the two together?

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ha well ive been riding it brakeless for a year....i hope in can last a few more months

so i take it there are no 109 mm bb suggestions?

tlupfer: arent they both square taper? what is the difference between them? will it damage the cranks to pair the two together?

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Look at bussinesscycle's info.

http://www.businesscycles.com/tr-refspec.htm#b/b

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yeah...they have 109 bbs that are way to expensive

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