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Old 05-24-05, 09:55 PM   #1
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IRO Jamie Roy Vs. NYCBikes CityFixed

I'm interested in buying a fixed gear for commuting and have narrowed my decision down to two bikes. I have read a lot of great things about IRO's from alot of different websites. I had my heart set on one until I came across the NYCBikes City Fixed.

CityFixed:
$585 Out the Door comes with:
Carbon Fork
Choice of Color (Clear, Black, White, John Deere Green, Red, Sky Blue, and Orange)
Aluminum Frame
NYCBikes Track Wheelset (Velocity Deep-V Rims, Sealed Cartridge Bearing Hubs, DT Spokes)
Front Brake
http://nycbikes.com/item.php?item_id=431


IRO Jamie Roy:
$630 Out the Door comes with:
7005 Aluminum Frame and Fork
+$60 for front brake
+$100 for carbon front fork
+$100 for upgraded wheelset (Velocity Deep-V Rims)
http://irocycle.com/fixedgearandsin...leinc/id77.html


What do you all think? I've never heard of NYCBikes before, so I'm a little hesitant to order.
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Old 05-24-05, 09:57 PM   #2
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do a search for NYC bikes in this forum, and you'll find out why everyone's going to suggest the IRO.
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Old 05-24-05, 10:03 PM   #3
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I can't find anything on the nyc bikes site about the geometry of that frame. Something about it looks odd. Like the chainstays are too long or something. Is it just me, or is it the angle of the photo, or does this bike actually have a long touring bikeish wheelbase.
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Old 05-24-05, 10:03 PM   #4
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Allow me to be the first to recommend...

IRO. Hands down. Great product, great service.

you can always "upgrade" the forks later... and you might even like the forks that come with the bike.

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I've been reading some reviews about NYCBikes and it seems like the general consensus is this: NYCBikes' Service is Terrible. However, I am more interested in the bike itself. The price is really what is so alluring about this bike. $585 for the CityFixed (Carbon Fork, Upgraded Wheelset, Front Brake) vs. $895 (Upgraded: Carbon Fork, Wheelset, Front Brake) is a pretty substantial difference. Hell, if i didn't like the NYCBike frame I could order a new IRO frame, swap the components, and still save money.

Aside from customer service, what does everyone think about the bike?

Delay:
I thought the frame looked a little off to me too. So I sent NYCBikes an email asking about the geometry. 2 out of the 3 guys I emailed got back to me within 12 hours. This is what they sent me.


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Old 05-24-05, 10:16 PM   #6
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I've been reading some reviews about NYCBikes and it seems like the general consensus is this: NYCBikes' Service is Terrible. However, I am more interested in the bike itself. The price is really what is so alluring about this bike. $585 for the CityFixed (Carbon Fork, Upgraded Wheelset, Front Brake) vs. $895 (Upgraded: Carbon Fork, Wheelset, Front Brake) is a pretty substantial difference. Hell, if i didn't like the NYCBike frame I could order a new IRO frame, swap the components, and still save money.

Aside from customer service, what does everyone think about the bike?
I still think you should go with the Iro. Continue to search about NYC Bikes about badly built wheels, etc. Its just too much of a risk when IRO is a proven quantity. $300 won't be that substantial of a difference when it comes to happiness. Additionally, Jamie Roy is in stock now while the NYCBikes package is a "pre-season" special. Drop the carbon fork on the IRO and it's a $200 difference (Tony @ IRO will let you buy the fork later at the upgrade price.)
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in the ugly dropout category I would say the NYC wins by a hair.
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screw the NY bike go for the IRO great **** there.
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Old 05-24-05, 11:45 PM   #9
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I've been reading some reviews about NYCBikes and it seems like the general consensus is this: NYCBikes' Service is Terrible. However, I am more interested in the bike itself...........
First I'll say that I've never owned an NYCBike nor an IRO. Even though the NYCBike price is appealing and, as you say, you are more interested in the bike than the supplier, the fact that so many people here have reported problems would concern me. Even if the bike runs well and you never have to avail yourself of NYCBike's customer service, do you really want to support folks like that? Tony of IRO, on the other hand, has garnered nothing but goodwill from everyone on these forums who's dealt with him. He posts and answers questions here seems to be an decent guy. Now, to me that's worth something.......besides, the guy has talked to astronauts in space!!!! I mean with a radio, not drugs!! How cool is that???

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I'm honestly not a big fan of the Jamie Roy, but I'd buy it before I'd buy anything NYCB sells. There's seriously a night and day difference between the companies.

Anyway, the IRO doesn't have to be that much more expensive--you should be able to find a decent brake caliper and lever somewhere for $25. And the deluxe wheelset--sure you need that? The basic is pretty decent. Aeroheads aren't as sturdy as the Deep Vs, but there're thousands of people riding them w/out much in the way of problems, and between a pair, they're like half a pound lighter than the Deep Vs would be.

I'd be a little leery of NYCBs "pre-season" deal, too. The only reason they offered it at such a low price is that they wouldn't have had the cash otherwise to order the frames/components from their supplier. So, you're basically paying them for something they don't even have yet. With another company, I'd probably go for it, but with them...
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are there any NYC bike mechs on the board? I've never seen them defend their stuff, like Velocity did. Still props to velocity.
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Thanks for the input everybody. I had actually intended on purchasing an IRO last year, but for financial reasons I had to put it off. I ended up speaking with Tony last year over the phone about the different options. He seemed like a read stand up guy.

But I think that I am going to get the Mark V. I'd rather have a more aggressive riding position and the forgiveness of steel. I'll stick with the stock wheelset and fork. I intend on placing the order tomorrow. Thanks for all the help guys.
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Thanks for the input everybody. I had actually intended on purchasing an IRO last year, but for financial reasons I had to put it off. I ended up speaking with Tony last year over the phone about the different options. He seemed like a read stand up guy.

But I think that I am going to get the Mark V. I'd rather have a more aggressive riding position and the forgiveness of steel. I'll stick with the stock wheelset and fork. I intend on placing the order tomorrow. Thanks for all the help guys.

you made the right choice. enjoy it.
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you definately did...im still kicking myself i abandonded the mark v...who knows...this new frame may and up being too big and i will hands down be grabbing a mark v pro...epecialy with that sexy new fork
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So I placed the order this morning for bike. Apparently IRO is out of Mark V's until the end of June. I couldn't wait that long so I ended up getting the Mark V pro. Tony's putting it together using all black parts. I can't wait to get it.
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Well, I wasn't really reading it wrong. The wheel base is a few cm longer than the Mark V pro, and most of that comes from the cs being 2 cm longer.
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Tony's putting it together using all black parts. I can't wait to get it.

Do Iro hubs now come in black?
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I'm super glad to hear you went with the IRO. You can't go wrong with Tony. Mad props to Tony. Post photos.
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