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Old 05-25-05, 10:01 AM   #1
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Time ATAC Alium VS. XS

Hey guys -

Is there any real differences between the Time ATAC Alium's and the Time ATAC XS pedals, besides price and about 100 grams of weight? Are there any advantages besides the weight on the XS that warrant spending $20 more on them?

Any input appreciated.
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Old 05-25-05, 10:30 AM   #2
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Mainly lighter. But for only $20 difference, get the XS.
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Mainly lighter. But for only $20 difference, get the XS.
Unless they changed it this model year, there's a BIG difference between the Aliums and all other ATACs. The Aliums have bushings, all the others have bearings. Bearings have less resistance and better durability.

I ride Aliums myself and they are fine, but the Aliums are known to have short lifespans. The axle resistance isn't noticeable on the bike, but on the workstand these are the stiffest-turing pedals I've ever seen.

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Good point. Bushings!?, who in their right mind would use bushings?
So get the XS for sure.
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I have a 5 year old pair of the Aliums, with no problems. From the specs I have read, the only difference is in the materials between the two you are talking about. To me it comes down to weight. Get the lighter ones, and they will make your bike a few grams lighter,and it will also make your wallet lighter too. Go with the Aliums. More money for some beer.
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I'm pretty sure the current Alium's use bearings. I have both. They both work good. If you can afford the extra $20 to drop the weight, do it. Otherwise ride the Aliums and enjoy.
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I have both. They both work good.
had both and, yep, they work well. Durability was never an issue with the aliums but I've only used the XS for 5 months so can't really comment.
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Hey guys -

Is there any real differences between the Time ATAC Alium's and the Time ATAC XS pedals, besides price and about 100 grams of weight? Are there any advantages besides the weight on the XS that warrant spending $20 more on them?

Any input appreciated.
I believe that the weight is the sole difference. If you're concerned about weight, $20 for nearly a 1/4 pound drop in weight (even more important @ the pedal level) isn't too bad of a deal. However, as another poster stated, you may want to keep the 20-spot in your pocket if weight is not an issue.
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EnLaCalle Combining comments from the other forum. Great question but please avoid cross posting the same topic.
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October 2008- Been using the Time Aliums for a few weeks now and I'm definitely digging the clipless ride. Is there a way to increase the tension? My right cleat/pedal stay straight and comfortable, but the float on the left side allows my toe to point outward instead of staying straight. I can't find a place on the pedal where an allen wrench would fit.

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i thought aliums don't have float like xs?
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Aside from the weight and material the biggest difference is the shape of the engagement springs. I have owned various versions of both the round springs (current Alium and older atac) and angled springs. Both function the same but the latter does have a nicer "feel" to it. XS are also adjustable. Both have float (rotational and lateral).
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I'm in a similar position, although I have slightly more than $20 the difference between the pedals, but meh.. I've actually ordered the XSs, as I liked the idea of the adjuster, but I'm sure I can still change it.. how useful would you rate it? I thought it would be good for someone new to clipless, as I could loosen them up a tad to start out as I hear atacs are notoriously hardly to get out of anyway
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get the xs. the range of float (13 and 17% I believe) makes them more versatile
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don't aliums have 13% and 17% as well, depending on cleat orientation? :s
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oh and does the OP mean XS or XE? anyway, I just jumped ship to the aliums haha, I could use that $50 right now, and I'm pretty sure the next ones up I had ordered were XEs, which seem to not have tension adjustment wither, just a composite body, but it's all a bit hard to work out (bloody french haha)
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I have a variety of time pedals, older model aliums, XE and XS. I bought the XE first, followed by a used pair aliums for my city bike, then finally got a pair of barely used XS through a friend. The XE was closer in price to the aliums. If you can get the XS for only $20 more than the alium, I'd say go for it. They're lighter, and the tension adjustment alone should make it worth it. The XE does not have the tension adjustment.

The aliums work fine and have held up through wet winter use, but I prefer the composite body atacs. $20 more isn't really that much for something that you will use every time you ride that bike for the next few years. I generally try not to skimp on the pedals, saddle, or handlebars if I can help it.
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Um, I brought this thread back up to ask a question specifically about the Alium pedals, not the alium vs atac xs. Just wondering if I'm screwed when it comes to adjusting tension. So, here is my question again:

October 2008- Been using the Time Aliums for a few weeks now and I'm definitely digging the clipless ride. Is there a way to increase the tension? My right cleat/pedal stay straight and comfortable, but the float on the left side allows my toe to point outward instead of staying straight. I can't find a place on the pedal where an allen wrench would fit.
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here's something that popped up when I googled "time atac tension adjustment"

"The Time ATAC (Auto Tension Adjustment Concept) system simply separates float from spring tension. This means that you get the same amount of float no matter how much force you choose to have to use to release. The float in most pedal systems is influenced by spring tension (release force), so if you like being securely clipped in, you give up some measure of comfort as your float decreases as well. Either that or you have to dial your cleat angle in precisely. Conversely, if you like running very little spring tension, you'll have more "slop" between the cleat and the pedal. Not so with the ATAC's. Run light tension without feeling like your walking on ice, or crank the tension up to the limit while remaining comfortable. Time ATAC pedals are an easy set-up because no cleat angle adjustment is required, remember - the float always stays the same!"
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I guess I should also mention that my left foot seems to pop out a lot easier than my right. I would like my left foot to be more secure as it popped out on me the other day when making a quick stop.
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