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Old 02-21-17, 10:54 AM   #1
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[OT] Recommendation for vinyl record turntable

Yes, I know this is totally off topic for this forum, but I also know there are a lot of audiophiles here so I thought I'd ask.

I have a decent vinyl collection that I've been playing on an ancient Dual 1218 belt drive turntable that's really on its last legs, so I've been looking for decent quality direct drive turntables that I can pick up for under $200. One candidate is a Crosley C200A-BK that comes with an Audio-Technica cartridge for well under $200, but I know nothing about it or if there are better choices in this price range. Any thoughts ?

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Used Technics 1200 + a good cartridge. Over budget but will last forever. Audiophiles tend to turn up their noses but with a good cartridge they are pretty nice and bombproof.

The Crosley looks pretty nice though.

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Not trying to be a grammar nazi, but it is Technics, just in case TT wants to search for it online etc.
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I would avoid the new turntable route, they just dont make them like they used to.

If you can be bothered, I would take the time to invest in a used one from the mid 70's to the late 80's, the height of the vinyl age, preferably from a brand that had a decent US marketshare at the time such as sansui, technics, marantz, pioneer, kenwood, sanyo or sony. The best/ cheapest place to find them is at a thrift shop but almost certainly work may need to be put in before its performing its best.

Definitely go for something direct drive and quartz lock rpm regulation for both ease of maintenance and speed consistency. You will know you're looking at a higher end unit if it features automation.

Do be aware you may need to invest in an external phono pre-amplifier for your system if your receiver does not have a pre-amplified phono input, as they are not built in to the record player itself historically. Most high-end record players of today do not feature a built in pre-amp.

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Audiophiles tend to turn up their noses but with a good cartridge they are pretty nice and bombproof.
Orthofon cartridges are my go to. Sure there are many offerings but the entry red cartridge will have you more than set.
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Hi,

I frequently go to a forum for vacuum tube stereo equipment, which also has a big vinyl following. There is a company based in Massachusetts called Uturn Audio that got its start as a kickstart project. They have gotten a lot of great reviews, and have several models, some of which you can customize and upgrade. The website is www.uturnaudio.com. Been thinking about getting one myself and getting into vinyl.

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Hi,

I frequently go to a forum for vacuum tube stereo equipment, which also has a big vinyl following. There is a company based in Massachusetts called Uturn Audio that got its start as a kickstart project. They have gotten a lot of great reviews, and have several models, some of which you can customize and upgrade. The website is www.uturnaudio.com. Been thinking about getting one myself and getting into vinyl.

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That Uturn turntable looks dang good for the price. I'd go for the "plus" version with the acrylic platter and built in preamp $350 - https://uturnaudio.com/products/orbit-plus-turntable

The whole setup looks properly designed and it seems to get good reviews. Seems much better than taking your chances with vintage classic models, which in that price range would be suspect, IMO.
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Used Techniques 1200 + a good cartridge. Over budget but will last forever. Audiophiles tend to turn up their noses but with a good cartridge they are pretty nice and bombproof.

The Crosley looks pretty nice though.
Good luck finding a used 1200 for $200.
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U-Turn seems to be the most reliable new option for an affordable turntable. Plenty of options and add-ons available to suit taste and budget.

I have a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC that has been great, but there have been a lot of problems reported online, at least for iterations earlier than mine.

My other turntable is a Dual 1009. Let me tell you that you'll be super disappointed in a Crosely, coming from your Dual. A Crosley is the Wal-Mart bike of turntables.
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Yeah, I guess thinking I could buy something decent for under $200 is about as realistic as getting a good bicycle for under $200. The Dual is still usable as a manual turntable, although it's stuck in On mode, so every time I turn my receiver on the platter is spinning.
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check out high end estate sales ... boomers are dying off and good condition marantz's et al can be had for next to nothing ( if you're lucky )at these estate and garage sales ...
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Look at the Audio-Technica LP 120. It's a little over budget on Amazon, but is a good turntable and gets good reviews. I have one and like it a lot.

Btw, if you think bike parts are expensive, wait until you go down the record shop rabbit hole. Worth it though.
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Yeah, I guess thinking I could buy something decent for under $200 is about as realistic as getting a good bicycle for under $200.
I bet that Orbit basic turntable is pretty good.

https://uturnaudio.com/products/orbit-basic-turntable
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Beginner's Guide to Turntables - Consumer Reports

https://www.amazon.com/21st-Century-.../dp/B000HA4WU2

That should cover the extremes.
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no one who has a "decent vinyl collection" is listening to it on a crosley.
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no one who has a "decent vinyl collection" is listening to it on a crosley.
I heard Urban Outfitters is one of their biggest accounts.
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i got the vestax version of the 1200s for $30 maybe a year ago? before that i had a stanton. i forget the numbers (maybe a t92? it wasnt usb) but it was $150 and lasted almost a decade.
neither of these are 1200s but they also arent on crosley levels.

will trade records for bike parts and vice versa.

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Another possibility is the Onkyo CP-1050, which retails for $499, but is readily available for under $250. It's a simple manual turntable with no Amp, USB or other features, but that's fine for my situation, since my old Kenwood receiver has a dedicated phono input channel. Can't tell if they are still made in Japan, though.

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You may want to search Craigslist for a DJ that is going all digital and may be selling off a Technics 1200.
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the "post a picture of your record collection" thread.
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Another possibility is the Onkyo CP-1050, which retails for $499, but is readily available for under $250. It's a simple manual turntable with no Amp, USB or other features, but that's fine for my situation, since my old Kenwood receiver has a dedicated phono input channel. Can't tell if they are still made in Japan, though.

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A good resource is the audiokarma forum, plenty of users with knowledge about hifi over there. Think bikeforums but for all things hifi.

Google up that model number followed by "audiokarma", they have plenty to say about it.
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A good resource is the audiokarma forum, plenty of users with knowledge about hifi over there. Think bikeforums but for all things hifi.

Google up that model number followed by "audiokarma", they have plenty to say about it.
Thanks for the link. Bad review, no wonder it's so heavily discounted. Still looking, I guess.
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Impressive ! Makes my collection look puny by comparison.
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