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Old 07-19-05, 11:54 PM
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tubies?

i'm not really considering this, but i was wondering if anyone out there rides tubulars on their fixed? you'd be even more awesome if the tubulars were on deep section carbon rims.
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Lotsa people seem to do it...
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Dont really know how good of an idea it is on rough streets.
Kinda expensive replacimg tyres all the time
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Originally Posted by bodegabandit
Dont really know how good of an idea it is on rough streets.
Kinda expensive replacimg tyres all the time

The glue alone can run $7/ tire...
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Originally Posted by bodegabandit
Dont really know how good of an idea it is on rough streets.
Kinda expensive replacimg tyres all the time
I wouldn't do it but monkey seems to have no trouble riding in Chicago in some of the meanest streets.

There was a ride a while ago when Judah was in town from SF and we did a late night ride through the Fulton Markets (lots of debris and glass) and over so many of the bridges downtown. He too was apprehensive about the bridges but his tires held up very well.

I was surprised, some of the streets we'd been before took out two of my old Vredestein Fortezzas easy (I've run Gatorskins in the last year).
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Ya, I rode'em exclusively until about a week ago. They felt really nice, but changing tires is a b#iotch.
I got a Surly/MA3 wheel from Marcus last week, so I'm riding that now.
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I have a pair of Mavic GP4s with Tufos on my track bike. Doesn't see a lot of road use (or any use come to that, but the summer is upon us and it's TT season around here ). I've had them over a year and a half, they ride beautifully. And they're not much more expensive than clinchers, either. I recently reshod my roadie, came to just under Ł50 for a pair of Vredesteins and tubes, but a pair of Tufos and Velex tape would only be Ł57.
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on one bike i have conti tubulars, but am still overly cautious in the city (san francisco). on another bike i am trying out some tufo "tubeless clinchers", which are basically tubulars for clincher rims. they feel amazing, look great, and seem to function nice. i'm still not fully comfortable and avoid stuff that i might normally just roll over on gatorskins or something, but still... not one problem so far. no glue on those tufo's, but putting them on is realllllly hard, ouchy knuckles for sure.
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I ride tubulars, haven't had problems yet... love the road feel and the lightness.

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Same here.

Once, though - Tufo front rolled over glass, no pop. Rear Vitt with Kevlar, pop hisss.
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Im just going against from spending anymore than I have to one my bike. Recently I was riding down clark and I hear pop Checked out my seatpost and sure enough cracked my new record (carbon) post. So right now every thing is on the super cheap for me, like the new one 19 even from marcus.
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I really ride tubes because I landed a used track rear for $25. Now I own 2 complete freewheel sets and a track rear because i just plain like them. Glue @ Nashbar is $2 per tube, enuf to do a set plus some.
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Yeah, and I scored some Gommitalia tubulars at the t-town swap from Crazy Dave for $15/per... not too bad. Not Continental Sprints, obviously, but they're decent for Thai-built tires.

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Not a bad idea to use CF rims since you don't have to worry about wearing out the sidewalls with the brake pads.

Corima makes some 45mm CF aero rims used by Campagnolo in the Bora wheels that are actually much less money than Zipps. $255 US for each bar rim. (you have to order them directly from Corima though)

Never used tubulars, but I hear the Tufo extreme tape is the way to go.

You do know that Campagnolo makes some Aluminum Pista wheels (tubulars) that have a 38mm profile with 20/24 spoke count. Big money though.
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Originally Posted by 53-11_alltheway
Not a bad idea to use CF rims since you don't have to worry about wearing out the sidewalls with the brake pads.

Corima makes some 45mm CF aero rims used by Campagnolo in the Bora wheels that are actually much less money than Zipps. $255 US for each bar rim. (you have to order them directly from Corima though)

Never used tubulars, but I hear the Tufo extreme tape is the way to go.

You do know that Campagnolo makes some Aluminum Pista wheels (tubulars) that have a 38mm profile with 20/24 spoke count. Big money though.

please dont tell us what you have seen in a catalog. tell what you use and what you like, or if you have used something you want to warn us from buying.. thank you.

i seriously doubt that campy is buying rims from corima.. where did you get that?

and yes i did know all of the above. i have only ridden a corima(tubular) set though, and they are good, but my form that year did not justify the expense so i sold them after 3 races..a friend of mine rides the new mavics on the street with a front brake, even if they have no brake surface. 4 months of mess. work on them so far
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Originally Posted by cphfxt
please dont tell us what you have seen in a catalog. tell what you use and what you like, or if you have used something you want to warn us from buying.. thank you.

i seriously doubt that campy is buying rims from corima.. where did you get that?

and yes i did know all of the above. i have only ridden a corima(tubular) set though, and they are good, but my form that year did not justify the expense so i sold them after 3 races..a friend of mine rides the new mavics on the street with a front brake, even if they have no brake surface. 4 months of mess. work on them so far
I got that info from weight weenies. Everything I've seen written there states Corima supplies Campagnolo with CF rims.

This isn't just one or two posts I've seen this, but many. They don't tolerate any misinformation or BS over there (they will call you on anything ) so I doubt this is incorrect (It always could be wrong though, nothing is 100%)
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Originally Posted by 53-11_alltheway
I got that info from weight weenies. Everything I've seen written there states Corima supplies Campagnolo with CF rims.

This isn't just one or two posts I've seen this, but many. They don't tolerate any misinformation or BS over there (they will call you on anything ) so I doubt this is incorrect (It always could be wrong though, nothing is 100%)
How about sharing information on stuff you have actual first-hand knowledge of? What do you ride? Do you like it? Why?
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Originally Posted by 53-11_alltheway
I got that info from weight weenies. Everything I've seen written there states Corima supplies Campagnolo with CF rims.

This isn't just one or two posts I've seen this, but many. They don't tolerate any misinformation or BS over there (they will call you on anything ) so I doubt this is incorrect (It always could be wrong though, nothing is 100%)
oh take care talking to the ww they´ll give you a eating disorder

the old bora rims had alu brake areas, so they were not corimas, i havent yet touched the new boras, but i suppose they could be corimas. i still doubt it though. campa is always adamant on doing it their way. and specs esp weight wise is on the "italian" side. i cant use any of their road wheels. they are just too flimsy..so i roll my own on their hubs..

but come to think of it the low profile campy rims looks just like the corima ones.. hmm..
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Originally Posted by cphfxt
oh take care talking to the ww they´ll give you a eating disorder

the old bora rims had alu brake areas, so they were not corimas, i havent yet touched the new boras, but i suppose they could be corimas. i still doubt it though. campa is always adamant on doing it their way. and specs esp weight wise is on the "italian" side. i cant use any of their road wheels. they are just too flimsy..so i roll my own on their hubs..

but come to think of it the low profile campy rims looks just like the corima ones.. hmm..
I'm not a weight weenie, but a lot of their technical stuff is spot on.

It could still be wrong, you never know.

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yes and very one eyed imo.

my 2 everyday bikes weigh 9.5 and 12.5 kgs i like em both equally..go figure
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Originally Posted by 53-11_alltheway
P.S. Jim-Bob go read the road forum if you want to know more. I never post pics because I don't care what you think of my bikes. (I don't need your approval or validation)
So all you're doing is parroting stuff you've read on the internet? I kinda figured, but it's good to have it confirmed.
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
So all you're doing is parroting stuff you've read on the internet? I kinda figured, but it's good to have it confirmed.
I write about my experiences many times in the road forum.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force them to drink. If I say stuff like scooting your seat too far forward on a road frame it will unload your rear wheel it's because I've done it.

If It's a discussion about seat tube angles, rider positioning and different crank lengths: it's because I've done it. I've ridden 170mm, 175mm and 180mm and learned a ton about biomechanics by doing this. All it takes is some background reading, some thinking and personal experience to figure it out.

I experiment with stuff out of my own interest. I don't just listen to what people say as gospel. Most of the stuff I learned is by doing stuff I shouldn't have been doing.
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Why does every thread have to be an argument the last five (six now) have had nothing to do with tubies the title of the thread what is with all tude
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tubulars feel amazing, no doubt. i've ridden many road training and racing miles on them.

since i do so much of my fixie riding in the dark, cold, drunk and other poor weather, though, i stick to clinchers.

ever try to mount a tubby in the rain?
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