karmical

i was amazed a few months back when i first started looping out there with what they have done with the area. they are also working up the other side of the embarcadero near jack london sq heading out towards the park st bridge heading over into alameda, i'll plot my alameda loop that i've done a couple of times since finding out there is a natural marketplace on park st in alameda, so i can pick up groceries on the way in.

https://tinyurl.com/amht4


gaylords

you guys should stop by our coffeeshop on 17th & Franklin, though we don't have crumpets, if you're lucky i may get the chance to hop behind the coffeebar and show my barista skills not open at 8am, but we're open sundays 10a-6p with live jazz @ 1-4p...

weed eater

Thanks Karmical, that loop looks fun. I like the ride out on the beach at alameda too. I get a little lost at a couple of points in your route--between mile markers 2 and 4, and then after about 9.5. are there some bike trails/paths I don't know about? I have heard about one that goes from Jack London down to Park St. This looks worth a try.

Wednesday I think we're going to do the Mandela/Grand thing again, and then I will ride up to work with the missus, for about 15 mi total. Or maybe we'll incorporate some of this. that'd be fun

We'll have to check out your coffeeshop. d'you guys have tea? I mean green tea--the camilla sinensis kind, not the jack kerouac kind. anyway, we'll say hi. what are your weekday hours?

karmical

there is a bike trail that takes you over behind the hotel over near the docking area which leads over to the coast guard area...sometimes i take the path, sometimes i do not it all depends..

in looking at that again it looks as if i clicked a wrong point somewhere around 9, but you simply follow park back out the same way you came in from park st-->embarc > to either broadway or take oak st to take you to lake merrit, where laps can be rode to pad miles plus i kind of like it down there these days...


we have various non jack k kinds, fresh pasteries, cookies, and a different favor organic pie each week, with tuesday being pie day M-F 9am - 8p

jim-bob

Hell, I'm always looking for more places to get caffeinated. Lately I've been fond of mama buzz, but gaylord's was more on the way.

17th/franklin? That's close to home, too.

weed eater

organic pie! you guys open too late for a pre-work visit, but i will have to drop in for afternoon tea sometime.

are you close to Ital Calabash? ever go there?

karmical

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do tell..

Terror_in_pink

I go to both all the time.

jim-bob

Which are worse, 24" wheels or 26" wheels?

weed eater

ital veggie food...on franklin, i think around 13th or 15th, i guess it's not at 17th, so probably a few blks further south. it's a little tiny place, good cheap organic salads, lotsa smoothies (incl. sorrel smoothies, a jamaican thing) and a sort of homemade veggie burger. blasting reggae and nice folks. i havent' been in a couple years, but it's worth a visit...if it's still open.

benadrian

Are you high? We went to the coffee mill on Grand before the ride.

Did anyone get yelled out by a grumpy guy this past Friday night in front of Mama Buzz or the auto gallery. If so, you met Jim-Bob.

Good times.

ben adrian

benadrian

I have a nice Alameda loop. From lake merritt to embarcadero to park, down park to the shore, down to the old base, through the tunnel, up to 12th or 14th, back to lake merritt.

Some potential stops, park st bike and antique stores, beach, thin man guitars, alameda skatepark, golden lotus, radio, golden bull, ruby room, etc.

woot.

ben

weed eater

you ride through the posey tunnel? is that easy or do you have to hop a fence? i'm intrigued...

jim-bob

Holy crap, you're right. I need to start sleeping more.

karmical

every ride through that tunnel takes years off your life, the amount of exhaust in there, right about the halfway point it gets kind of hard breathing, though it is fun riding through especially that feeling that there may not be enough space on the path through, and that your bars may hit the side causing you to be thrown over the fence into traffic.....


everyone should experince it once however...

weed eater

good lord. everyone except for me, maybe.

the hilarious thing is that according to my Walk Oakland map, that tunnel is, or will someday be, part of the Bay Trail (along with the sidewalk that runs down the median of Mandela Parkway).

benadrian

There's a sidewalk.

Actually a lot of the times I just ride back to Park St.

And this is just a light fun ride. All the rides I do are light, fun rides. I'm a smoker, I can't have it any other way.

Ben