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    Ordering Online - LBS not an option

    This might be boring to include so much, but I thought I'd share this experience. Also, I'm curious what you might do in my situation. Like if you had to pick an option from 1-6. This is a blast - and the responses from the shops have been very informative. I've been saving for ages and springing out with my cash - I didn't know it would be so hard to spend my hard earned savings. But buying is so fun. I've been a unlucky being so small (5'7"/135lbs) , but it's coming together - only had to wait a bit. I was riding a Nishiki fixed this past year - but the wheels got pinched - so I sold the frame and started working on this dream bike. Saved up - and then:

    1. Hello, I'd like to order the 49cm DeBernardi Thron Track Frame and
    Fork. Is it best to fax in the order? thank you!

    Hi, They will be available in 2 weeks. please call in your order, so you can reserve one.. This date is from receipt of your order....
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    2. Hello, Do you have a 49cm or 50cm DeBernardi Thron Track in stock?
    Thank you for your help!

    Sir,Those take 5-7 days to ship.
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    3. Do you have a 49cm lugged steel track frame in stock?
    Debernardi perhaps? thank you for you help.

    Debernardi 47 today, 49 available
    Soma 49 - not lugged 631 Reynolds $379/$500 with fork
    lots of 52-3-4 today.

    Let me say that in our end of the business it's normal to
    wait a few days for a frame. At KMart, bicycles come in
    two flavors, boys' and girls'. You roll one out.

    Lesser main brands like Schwinn and Trek go
    small-medium-large.

    Pro frames come in 12 or 14 sizes so even a well supplied
    shop like us, with a dozen track frames and as many built
    single gear bikes on any given day, won't have every size
    in every model. We simply cannot. So we rely on our
    suppliers for quick service.
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    3b. Hello, Thank you so much for the info. I'm in no hurry and I will be putting together a completely new ride. I'm starting with the frame. Its been difficult finding a lugged steel track frame in this size. Thank you so much for your help. Do keep me informed!

    Nagasawa makes so very few frames it could be a long while.

    I have a customer with 'dibs' on the first available 49. She's waiting since December.

    So if you are in no hurry, OK. If you want to discus other frames that's fine too.
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    5. Hello, I'm looking for a 49cm/50cm lugged steel track frame for
    around $600. Do you have something like this in stock? thank you for your help,


    Not right now, that's a tough size to find. i can get brand new surly or bare knuckle frame sets in that size. surly's are $390 new frame/fork. bare knuckle are italian made and $550 frameset.
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    4. Hello, Do you have a Blue Benotto Track Frame ($499) size 49cm or 51cm in stock at this price? I'm looking for a small lugged steel italian track frame in this price range.
    Thanks for the email. Sorry to say Benotto quit making those recently and the one US distributor just ran out of his scratch and dent ones. They were made in Mexico. So I have been offering a tig welded frame only for the same price. I can quote a fork too. I can do a lugged frame only for $600 with our standard lugs and english BB.
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    6. Hello, I'm looking for a 49cm/50cm lugged steel track frame for around $600. Do you have something like this in stock? thank you for your help,

    We have Cinelli Olympic steel track frames that are lugged for $976
    We sell Tig welded italian frames called barenknuckle for $650 and Tig
    welded Soma frames for $450. Lugged frames are rare these days and the only ones we sell are $975 and up

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    neasrhinolds, check your private messages.
    "Fixed gear ain't all tight pants and hand claps."

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    I really liked my debernardi!

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    You think you got it tough. I've been waiting 6 weeks for an '05 pista to get delivered to my lbs. When I first went in I was told the Canadian wholesaler or supplier had just gone belly up, that they (my lbs) had purchased every Bianchi complete, frame and part left in the country. He told me that since there was no Pistas in that purchase it ment that there were no Pistas left in the whole country. Not even one. They were going to have to order one from Italy, Lucky for me there was I shipment leaving in a couple of days and it should be in my hands in two weeks time. I was also told that when it did arrive I would have the only '05 Pista in Canada.

    I wasn't foolish enought to belive that it would arrive in those two weeks since it was coming by container across the Atlantic to the U.S. then being sent up to Toronto. I did call them to find out how long it would take for it to arrive and I was told it would take an additional two weeks, but I was reminded that I would have the only in Canada. woohoo lucky me. Another two weeks came and went and still no Pista. I was told to cack call on monday that it should be in then. Guess what, no Pista.

    So I went in on Thursday, six weeks since I placed my order and by now everyone in the shop knows why I'm there, they don't even have to ask. "You're the guy that's waiting for the track bike? Biachi right?" While I was there the guy who's been Helping me out called the guy in the U.S. who has my bike and was told another week, week and a half. At this point I'm almost thinking about having one built up since it's taking so damn long. It's really funny because when I first started looking for a new bike I thought a stock off the shelf bike would be in my hands a lot quicker and was one of the main reasons for ordering the Pista. I saw a De bernardi online last week in my size and I almost snatched it up but I started to think how long it would take to get all the parts together.

    So I guess I'm just left here waiting for my Pista to arrive. At this point I don't care if the whole damned world gets an '05 Pista as long as I get mines too.

    Sorry for jacking your thread but I really had to vent this out somehow. In the mean time Bikeshare.org has been filling the void left when my bike was stolen last october.
    Punctuality is the thief of time.

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    Oh wow that is tough, I hope your patience pays off Vindicator.

    With the sale of my old frame I bought a wheel for my 10 speed within 10 minutes almost heh heh. Got the cash and went over to the shop around the corner. So it's nice to at least have something to tool around on. Glad you do too!

    The wheel from my 10 speed had also been stolen! Ha ha - the thieves in SF are fierce - and I blame my laziness mostly. Stopping in to see a friend and just locking up one wheel. In 10 min in the Lower Haight district of SF - and it's gone.

    Anyways - after some very nice pms from the friendly folks on this forum offering frames for sale and builds - I've purchased a new 49cm Italian lugged frame and hoping I don't have to wait too long for it. I don't want to get used to all this "coasting" heh heh.

    Next year or two I reckon the market will be flooded with tracks. More Velodromes?, more builders? - maybe someone will start an import from Japan? Amazing how remarkably difficult it is to find what we're looking for - without having to pay $1,500.

    Quote from my original post: "Lugged frames are rare these days and the only ones we sell are $975 and up"

    This can't be true for too much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouton
    I really liked my debernardi!
    Oh Cool - that's what I ordered. Do you still have it? I'm looking forward to a dreamy smooth ride.
    Does it feel pretty good ?

    cheers,

    neas

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