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Old 06-13-05, 09:18 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a frame with asymmetrical seatstays to make my next fixed.
I am hoping to spend less than $500 for it (edit: the frame). Does anyone
know of a frame currently in production or some brand names I should be
looking for in used to find this? I saw a bike with these yesterday and I am
in love.

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Old 06-13-05, 11:38 PM   #2
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Absolutely no point in using asymetrical seatstays unless you plan on running a disc brake...which I assume you aren't.
Assuming both of the above are true, you'd be hard pressed to find something like that because a) It's silly, and b) If anyone was silly enough to do it, it would have limited appeal (and limited show on eBay) because it's...er......silly.
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Kaz, I support your persuit of the Aesthetic. Someone posted a picture of a bike like this in a thread recently but I cant remember which.
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Kaz, I support your persuit of the Aesthetic. Someone posted a picture of a bike like this in a thread recently but I cant remember which.
Wishbone seat stays on track bikes
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Old 06-14-05, 12:52 AM   #5
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exactly.
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Old 06-14-05, 01:04 AM   #6
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they look preatty cool i like them i would get one if i had the money.
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Old 06-14-05, 01:42 AM   #7
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I think they can be tight. Only ever seen a couple myself, but I can see how they could be slightly more aero.
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Old 06-14-05, 02:08 AM   #8
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It is absolutely about looks. If you saw my current ride you'd understand I
don't care about areodynamics or disc mounting etc. I just think they look
totally badass and I want a frame with them.

Still hoping for some pointers on the original question.

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Old 06-14-05, 05:51 AM   #9
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Looks fantastic. I can see why you want one...
But I have looked at all trackbikes on the net I could and have only seen one made like this, apart from the landsharks on the other thread. And that single one was a custom made frame on FGG.
http://www.landsharkbicycles.com sells them at over $1000, so your only hope might be to find a used one for sale - very unlikely. Or you could have one built for you. I s'pose any framebulder can do it, but it won't be cheap.

Edit: someone has foud one on FGG and posted it on the other thread: http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/canon10.htm

Again, that is custom made as well, from titanium by http://www.spicercycles.com for a heap of money. It seems they are all pretty much one-offs.
BTW, $900 for a custom made titanium frame this beautiful seems almost a bargain to me, if sy has that sort of money. But, add the price of a carbon or ti fork and you are above 1000, again.

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One man's toast is another man's cardboard, I like to say. Personally, I think the asymetrical seat stays are just trippy enough to be cool, they make the rear triangle look like an MC Escher painting. Plus they really drive home the point that you don't need no stinking rear brake.

That said, I haven't seen any around besides the mad-pricey ones already mentioned. If you are handy with a brazing torch you could get a bike with conventional fillet brazed seat stays, disconnect the brake bridge (if its got one), disconnect the seat stays, remiter the left stay to be the 'top' and bring it in a few degrees, and shotren and remiter the right stay to be the 'bottom'. Braze back together, replace the bridge, repaint, and enjoy your handiwork. That might be a fun project if you have some files, hacksaws, acetylene torch, and want some practice at frame manipulation.

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Also, since you were hoping to spend less than 500$, that would leave you room to find a cool brazed frame for 100-200$, and then have a local frame builder do the 'adjustment', which shouldn't cost all that much, certainly under your budget.

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yamaguchi might be the master of asymmetrical frames.

http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...uchiTTTK4.html

a bit more involved than just seat stays but it had to be posted.
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That yamaguchi is wacky! I love it!
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I do have the resources to modify an existing frame... that is an
excellent idea that I hadn't even considered. Looks like it is time
to go to some garage sales in hunt of a cheapo frame.

Just to clarify I meant $500 for the frame, not the entire bike.

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I do have the resources to modify an existing frame... that is an
excellent idea that I hadn't even considered. Looks like it is time
to go to some garage sales in hunt of a cheapo frame.

Just to clarify I meant $500 for the frame, not the entire bike.

Kaz
Hey, good to hear it! Show us pics when its done. My motto has always been, "When in doubt, make it yourself," the corollary being, "When in doubt, hack it up with a plasma cutter."

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yamaguchi might be the master of asymmetrical frames.

http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...uchiTTTK4.html

a bit more involved than just seat stays but it had to be posted.
is there a reason behind that design? something with only turning left on the track? or is it drugs ?
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It IS drugs.
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seconded.
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yamaguchi might be the master of asymmetrical frames.

http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...uchiTTTK4.html

a bit more involved than just seat stays but it had to be posted.
Sweet. Super short wheelbase - bet it would be fun on the street...
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I'm looking for a frame with asymmetrical seatstays to make my next fixed.
I am hoping to spend less than $500 for it (edit: the frame). Does anyone
know of a frame currently in production or some brand names I should be
looking for in used to find this? I saw a bike with these yesterday and I am
in love.

Kaz

you mean wishbone seatstays, not assymetrical. wishbones are still symmetrical.

I love technicalities

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? no. He means asymmetrical, like thos beauty: http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/canon10.htm. Wishbones are fugly while asymmetricals are cool.
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