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Old 06-21-05, 05:08 PM   #1
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Iro Jamie Roy Vs. Nyc Cityfixed

I'm about to purchase my first fixed gear and I'm curious as to what people think is better. From the bike to customer service to everything. The IRO and NYC seem to be the nicest out there. I can't find anything else on the net.undefinedundefined
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Old 06-21-05, 05:17 PM   #2
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I would suggest trying to search the boards first. These things have been discussed countless times.
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Old 06-21-05, 05:19 PM   #3
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99% of posters here are going to say IRO.

do a search for "NYC bikes" to find out why.
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Old 06-21-05, 07:02 PM   #4
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I haven't posted in a month or so. Just been busy. Been riding. But as soon as I saw this thread I knew I had to say something.

I don't care how many times somebody asks about NYCbikes, I'll repeat myself over and over. I don't mind.

They suck. They are terrible. A pure example of quantity not quality. A great example of elitist bike shop boys that talk down to all their customers. A fine example of a bike shop that has no love for the physical act of cycling (call it a hunch).

My personal story has been told, but I'll tell it again, cliffnotes style.

Bought an item off ebay.

Rode by to pick it up in person.

Still charged me shipping.

nuff said.

out.
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Old 06-21-05, 07:14 PM   #5
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99% of posters here are going to say IRO.
the other 1% say go custom.
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Old 06-21-05, 07:16 PM   #6
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Thanks for the info. IRO sounds like the best way to go.
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IRO, or tony has the best customer service out there.
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I would rather shoot both my own feet off than deal with NYC Bikes from what I have heard around here...

Go Liverpool! You'll Never Walk ALONE!
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when I sent tony a thanks for the wheels I bought, I sent a picture of the bike that they went on. afterwards we had about 4 or 5 emails between the two of us talking about obsessing on color matching bikes. it blew my mind that I even got a response, amazing dude, even if his products sucked (which they don't) I'd keep goin back just to talk to him.
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I would rather shoot both my own feet off than deal with NYC Bikes from what I have heard around here...

Go Liverpool! You'll Never Walk ALONE!

[OT] well done for liverpool. i was pretty pumped to see that they'd won (i couldn't catch the CL final). but always nice to have a gooner on board! welcome, arsenalfan78! [/OT]
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I love my IRO. I'd get another any time. In fact, I may be buying another frame from him or perhaps a Surly if I loose a bet about who is on the podium at the TDF!

I've been training on mine almost exclusively for the last couple months (except for a couple weeks in the mountains) and I've put about 1500 miles on it. Tony built up my Mark V, but the next one I will build. I like his cranks & will use them in building the next fixed gear. They seem to be very solid & the chain line is perfectly straight.
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I actually made the exact same post with literally the exact same title about two months ago. I took everyones advice and ended up buying an IRO Mark V Pro. I couldn't be happier with my bike. Tony and I went through part by part and built up my bike. He even upgraded my wheelset for free (quite a suprise to me). I love the clean lines of the Mark V pro frame and the blade fork looks killer. All that being said...

BUY AN IRO!!!!!!!!!

you will not regret it.
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He even upgraded my wheelset for free (quite a suprise to me).
tony may be legaly insane.
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99% of posters here are going to say IRO.

do a search for "NYC bikes" to find out why.
Actually it's more like 99.99999999999999999999999999999% would say IRO.

But hey, whose counting?
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Old 06-24-05, 01:13 AM   #15
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IRO and NYCbikes come from the same factory, and have pretty much the same numbers, material,ride quality.... However, Tony is a godsend as far as cutomer service goes. I'll be buying more from him, at least when I have some money. Support IRO! Plus, my Mark V rides like a dream!
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I'm about to purchase my first fixed gear and I'm curious as to what people think is better. From the bike to customer service to everything. The IRO and NYC seem to be the nicest out there. I can't find anything else on the net.
I think our Model G stands up well against the others.



$430 which includes frame, fork, brake calipers, headset and shipping to locations in the USA.

$45 extra for our 120mm, fixed/fixed rear hub

More photos here: http://www.kogswell.com/images/g

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Email us at: info@kogswell.com Phone us at: 1-952-445-8804

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Mmm, lugs


That's really nice looking!
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Old 06-24-05, 09:02 AM   #18
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[QUOTE=Kogswell]I think our Model G stands up well against the others.

Do you make a frame w/o the fender mounts and brake bosses?
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Do you make a frame w/o the fender mounts and brake bosses?
Our customers asked for fender mounts. So I added them.

Then I started scrounging old steel fenders, painting them, and putting them on my bikes.

Now I'm hooked.

This is my daughter's Model M fixee. Did you know that 12-yr-olds like fixing too?



And here's a Mod. G that someone in Portland built for his GF.



So I've gone from anti to pro fender. I even put a fender mount under the fork crown.

So that's the fender thing.

Not sure what you mean by a brake boss.

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i can tell you that mr grimm is the real deal re: customer service too. bet thats why he's friends with iro tony. kogswells are nice rides and deserve lots o' consideration when thinking about new bikes.
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what is the standover height on the g58?
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what is the standover height on the g58?
32 inches

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Old 06-24-05, 04:15 PM   #23
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32 inches

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How much is that g58 kogswell.
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How much is that g58 kogswell.
The G model (both the 54 and 58cm sizes) are $430 which includes:

frame, fork, brake calipers, headset and shipping to locations in the US

Here's one that's built up:



Note that they end up looking fairly roadish rather than trackish.

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BTW: G58 is our shorthand for Model G / Size 58cm
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I had a IRO jamie Roy bike and I now have a NYC cityfixed. Id have to say I must be that .00000001% that is in love with my NYC bike.. It was a wait getting it, but I never had a problem with the guys at the shop, or any of my parts. The parts there are even a lot lower in cost then some of the manhattan places ive been.
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