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Old 06-26-05, 11:07 PM   #1
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nothing ruins a nice bike like...

anyone else have this problem? i find myself looking at oodles of pictures of fixed bikes online, between here, FGG, and bikecult. i've developed certain peeves about how other people choose to build their bikes.

for example; this FGG entry (referenced in the "ID this frame" thread) http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/mar/IanAdelman.htm

lovely bike, but i instantly found myself thinking "man, nothing ruins an otherwise nice bike like a unicrown"

i've found that i have the same problem with platform pedals, and plastic seats on classic bikes.

maybe it's just me.
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brake levers on track bars. especially if they have a half wrap grip job
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ugh, unicrown. that little bit or steer tube sticking out the bottom just bugs me.

and ridiculously low drops that only get ridden on the tops. and saddles that point 20 degrees below horizontal.
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http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/mar/IanAdelman.htm

man, nothing ruins an otherwise nice bike like a unicrown
First off, that's a sweet bike.

...

Up until a couple of week ago, I was totally with you. I can handle TIG'd frame, but I had to have a brazed fork built w/ a real crown.

Then I got a copy of The Golden Age of Handbuilt Bicycles and I noticed that most of these 'no expense spared' bikes have crowns that are curved top and bottom to follow the lines of the fenders and tires.

Just like unicrowns.

Now I'm starting to rethink unicrowns.

And I'm looking at them again.

And there are a handful of different types.

In the mean time answer this question: which type of crown offers more fender/tire clearance: flat or sloping?

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Old 06-26-05, 11:26 PM   #5
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Nothing ruins a nice bike like:

•Lugs
•Toe clips
•Chrome
•A Brooks saddle




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unicrown? pls enlighten..
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Old 06-26-05, 11:36 PM   #7
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unicrown? pls enlighten..
the fork legs curve to form the crown.
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Unicrown.....on the right
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How about unicrown with wishbone rear stays!!!
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i agree on the brake lever thing:

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Then I got a copy of The Golden Age of Handbuilt Bicycles and I noticed that most of these 'no expense spared' bikes have crowns that are curved top and bottom to follow the lines of the fenders and tires.


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sloping crowns and unicrowns are two different beasts entirely.
sloping crown + straight blades = hot!
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i actually don't mind the wishbone, but the unicrown was the difference between a surly crosscheck and a rob roy or il pompino for me.

if i'm going to throw down a load of cash on something, these are details that matter.
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Old 06-26-05, 11:45 PM   #13
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i agree on the brake lever thing:
good god! that's wrong on so many levels.

stem police...paging the stem police......
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anyone else have this problem? i find myself looking at oodles of pictures of fixed bikes online, between here, FGG, and bikecult. i've developed certain peeves about how other people choose to build their bikes.

for example; this FGG entry (referenced in the "ID this frame" thread) http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/mar/IanAdelman.htm

lovely bike, but i instantly found myself thinking "man, nothing ruins an otherwise nice bike like a unicrown"

i've found that i have the same problem with platform pedals, and plastic seats on classic bikes.

maybe it's just me.
You know what bugs the hell out of me with that bike? The damn labels on the tires aren't lined up with the valve stem. I know, they are lined up with the labels (They aren't even lined up with the labels very well. Sloppy as hell.), but that's lame. Some people just don't know how to properly setup a bike.
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Why the hell does it matter what the labels line up with?
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Why the hell does it matter what the labels line up with?
Well, for most people it looks nice. But if you know anything about tire construction, then you'll know that the label is put on the heaviest part of the tire. You line this up with the valve stem to help balance out the wheel. The lightest part of a rim is where the valvestem hole is. The weight of the valve is not enough to offset the pinned/welded joint opposing it. So you put the heaviest part of the tire there. Makes it look better too.
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Why the hell does it matter what the labels line up with?
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Why the hell does it matter what the labels line up with?
I don't line them up on purpose after reading that people actually take issue with that. Wow. Never mind the fact that it is actually a good idea to "rotate" tires every so often if you skid.
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I think the worst thing is when people complain about how other people's bikes look. It's not yours, and it more than likely fits their needs.
Regardless of how ridiculous it looks. If it bothers you, help them remove/buy the parts you want to make their bikes meet your standards.
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I think the worst thing is when people complain about how other people's bikes look. It's not yours, and it more than likely fits their needs.
Regardless of how ridiculous it looks. If it bothers you, help them remove/buy the parts you want to make their bikes meet your standards.
agreed.
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Line up the labels on your tires with your valve stems so that, when you get a flat, you can quickly figure out where on the tire to look for the embedded piece of glass or whatever caused it. That way you won't get another flat in the same place when you inflate the new tube.

I've never heard of tires being heavier at the label. Is that true? How much heavier is it, and why?
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brake levers on track bars. especially if they have a half wrap grip job
I'm going to disagree with that for inline brakes, but maybe that's just because I'm planning on trying out that set up once my drops get here.
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I don't line them up on purpose after reading that people actually take issue with that. Wow. Never mind the fact that it is actually a good idea to "rotate" tires every so often if you skid.
umm, you don't need to take the tire off the rim to avoid skid patches. just the chain off the cog.

I line the the labels up with the valves because I'm old and can't see so it makes finding the valves a little easier when it comes time to pump 'em up.
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I think the worst thing is when people complain about how other people's bikes look. It's not yours, and it more than likely fits their needs.
Regardless of how ridiculous it looks. If it bothers you, help them remove/buy the parts you want to make their bikes meet your standards.
what the hell would we talk about then?
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what the hell would we talk about then?
okay - that was somewhat funny.
There are certain aesthetics that I adhere to, but I do not impose these on others. The only time certain specs should be enforced would be for safety/competition reasons, like at a velodrome.
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