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    Brakeless on a radial rear wheel?

    http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005...Loggiabike.htm

    And he has a 3x front to ruin any aesthetics as well.

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    "I'll simply say that I've yet to hear an argument against the efficiency of radially laced rears that is based on science, and yet to here an argument regarding their safety based on experience."

    All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. - Paul Simon

    Dumbass.

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    "yet to here an argument regarding their safety based on experience."

    That's because nobody else is dumb enough to do this. I don't think he's gonna die or whatever, but I do think his hub's in for a thrashing. I've heard more than a few tales of radial fronts cracking up and the rear's only got it worse.

    Plus the power transfer has got to be terrible.

    Oh, and I think radial is ugly anyhow.

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    What is the lacing method that has the spokes twisting around each other? I like how it looks but I don't know anything about how stable or unstable it makes the wheel.

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    i can picture that hub turning a whole bunch before the rim catches up. ridiculous!
    it would be fun to try riding that thing.

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    He's got a mtn bike for sale on Craigslist with the same wheel setup:
    http://www.craigslist.org/eby/bik/80126417.html

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    This guy is an idiot, and the fact that he is selling a bike on CL with a radial rear is even more frightening. He is going to sell that bike i bet to some guy who really has no idea what he is buying. The buyer might ride this bike. The rear wheel/hub may fail. He may die/injure himself.

    I bet this guy is one of those people that thinks "If I haven't seen it, it doesn't exist." These are also the same people that get weeded out by natural selection

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    i emailed him regarding his radial rear and he told me it's a myth that you can't lace a rear radially...
    well of course you CAN.. but that wheel will be out of true before sundown....

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    so how bad is a radial wheel for a front wheel?

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    i wonder if that bike has good chain tension, and how hard it was for him to achieve, or if he was just lucky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah
    He's got a mtn bike for sale on Craigslist with the same wheel setup:
    http://www.craigslist.org/eby/bik/80126417.html

    not enough spacers i think..

    http://www.loggiabike.com/page1/file...-1002-full.jpg


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    The kids love the form. Who cares about function?

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    whatever happened to "form follows function"?
    "Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastard. Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off."

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    as the kids say..."I'm 20 years old and invincible." I never ever for any reason want to be back at that point in my life, lol =)

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    <i>I've heard more than a few tales of radial fronts cracking up and the rear's only got it worse.</i>
    any from the past decade that where built with new hubs?? Hubs are much stonger then they used to be.

    I like how he has to dish the rear do runing heads out on one side and in on the other. I really want to hear his reason for doing this.

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    perhaps when he goes down dues to his spokes/hubs failing he'll also take a core sample with his brass bar.
    I wish him no ill, but he should not be selling bikes like that,.... bad juju!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutret
    any from the past decade that where built with new hubs?? Hubs are much stonger then they used to be.
    I can't say much more other than they were, "hey, my radially laced hub has started to crack around the spoke holes." type. I don't know how new or old any of the parts were. On the other hand, do you have any basis for your claim that hubs are stronger than they used to be? I'm truly curious, because I don't know why that would be.

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    What this radial-lacing dude should really be doing is lacing them up POWerwheel style: http://sheldonbrown.com/power_wheel.html

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    I'd be much more worried about the fork. Extending a carbon fork 3 inches by sticking crownrace halfway up the steerer is the work of someone who should not be allowed to operate a pencil let alone a wrench.


    Quote Originally Posted by Q23
    perhaps when he goes down dues to his spokes/hubs failing he'll also take a core sample with his brass bar.
    The person he decided to copy was using a brass bar. His is just plain copper.


    So what ever benefits brass has over copper, I ain't gettin' 'em.
    I don't know but I would actually do some research and find out before using copper pipe as a handlebar. Considering you can bend copper water pipe over you knee I'm thinking that perhaps brass is a little stronger.

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    plus copper patina over time so soon it'll be stained then turn green so everytime he rides that bike he's gonna look like he just jerked off an alien.
    "Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastard. Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off."

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    I'm guessing the spacers below the headtube are because the bike was built for a suspension fork and that's an ordinary rigid fork. Doesn't make it less stupid.

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    For what it's worth, you can radially lace the non-drive side of a rear wheel. I had that on my road bike (emphasis on had, the hub broke!).

    I don't trust rear wheels with radial lacing on the non-drive side, I can only imagine what kind of havok drive side radial lacing will wreak!

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    You can do that on a dished rear wheel because the non-drive spokes are considerably less tensioned than the drive side. On a dishless single speed wheel this isn't so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostontrevor
    You can do that on a dished rear wheel because the non-drive spokes are considerably less tensioned than the drive side. On a dishless single speed wheel this isn't so.
    Ah, didn't know that.

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    Yup, that's why on a dished wheel broken spokes typically happen on the drive side.

    I've heard that some builders use shorter spokes NDS to be able to bring up the tension, but I've had others look at me like an alien for even suggesting such a thing. So beats me, I've only built symmetric wheels.

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