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Old 06-30-05, 07:24 AM   #1
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Phil Wood will powdercoat their hubs

This is an email response I got from them:

Hi Sean,

I've done it in red. it looks like crap, we spend all that time finishing the hub soooo nice and then it gets a rough powder on it that fills in the logo etc.
If you want it you can have it, but you've been warned. It will be an additional $150 whether it is one or four hubs.

Let me know if I can help with anything else.

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A rough powdercoat? I've never seen powdercoating that came out with a rough feel.
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Old 06-30-05, 08:03 AM   #2
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It'll be rough in comparison to an anodized coating. It might not look like it over an entire bike, but powdercoating is pretty 'thick', and it would unevenly fill in things like the logo.

But hey, its an option.

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Rough in the sense that there's a lot of detailing and polishing that goes into a PW hub and then you powder coat it and it tends to be sloppy and blot out a lot of detail.

That's why wet paint jobs tend to look much better on highly detailed hand made frames.
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powdercoating detailed objects properly is incredibly difficult.

A smooth coat of Enamel would almost be better.
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Will my dream of white Phils ever come true?
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why not get them painted by a pro bicycle painter? i don't really think you need the powdercoating because it's not like hubs get banged into that much, and with wet paint you wouldn't lose too much of the detail.
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why not get them painted by a pro bicycle painter? i don't really think you need the powdercoating because it's not like hubs get banged into that much, and with wet paint you wouldn't lose too much of the detail.

That's a godo idea. I had my bike powdercoated by spectrum powderworks (www.spectrumpowderworks.com) and they did a fantastic job. They do liquid painting too. I bet they could even do them white and make the logo another colour. They'd be one of a kind...hmmm.....
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I'm still stuck on why you would want white phils.
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I want white deep V's with white phils
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I'm still stuck on why you would want white phils.
To match the belt, duh.
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I'm still stuck on why you would want white phils.
To match the belt, duh.
That new Superhorse 12" on Gravity looks awesome. Ex-Clikatat/Heroin. I'm excited.

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Never worn a white belt. My bike is a sparkly blue and I am going to get a white san marco regal saddle, white track grips, and white rims. If white hubs were available I would get them and I was just checking my options. The rest of the non-white components will be chrome or alloy.
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I was just talking about white Phils last night, which is to say that I want/need them. I'm a full-on pervert for the black and white color scheme.
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I would have gotten white if i could - so instead i got red. I really wanted an all black and white bike with just red hubs and red headset to match - but no black bike in sight yet.
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I'm going with a stealth all black IRO now since I can't do a black/white combo. It'd be sweet if there were a nice white tire that wont' get dirty in a second matched with white tape and white seat and rest of the bike black. I doubt that'll happen anytime soon though.
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All that for only $150! What a deal!

I don't care what color they're making them. An extra $150 is pretty pricey option. Especially for something that sounds like it will look like turds according to them.
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That's why I'm not doing it.
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dolface's point was a good one.
you could get a good finish if you painted them with rattlecans. since the surface area is relatively small and round, any irregularities would not be noticeable.
you could even bake them for a stronger finish.
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MMMM.... Phil Wood Pie....
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You could fully disassemble the hubs (so you are left with the raw hub shell), then paint the shells yourself. Clean the hubs veeery well to get rid of any wax or oils, mask the interior of the shell, lay down a coat of primer, and then a few veeery thin coats of a high quality exterior white enamel. Expect to have to ream the spoke holes out a bit when you are done with a very thin rat tail file. Also, don't forget to wait a full 48 hours after painting before reassembling, to allow the paint to fully cure. A low temp bake would probably help too. Afterwards you could reapply the phil logo with a thin red paint pen if you wanted.

Touchy business, but it could work. This is an area where the success of the project is directly related to the quality of your prep work, and your ability to follow directions. Disobey the recoat window and you'll be using some chemical stripper and starting over. When done, expect to have to clean the damn things all the time, since they will get FILTHY fast. Of course, if you painted them dark brown you'd never have to clean them.

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Old 06-30-05, 04:13 PM   #21
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mmm sh*t house brown phils...
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why not just wrap them in white duct tape?
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I abondoned the idea of white components on my bicycle, too much road sluge and not enough patience to clean it everytime I ride.
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I abondoned the idea of white components on my bicycle, too much road sluge and not enough patience to clean it everytime I ride.
amen. white sucks.
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I happened to be very fond of my old white bike. It did not suck and my white components do not suck either. I take offence to that.

Black sucks! Everyone has black. Itīs too easy. Poser
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