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Old 07-01-05, 09:49 AM   #1
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drop bars: STEEL vs. ALUMINIUM

So you hear the debate between steel & alum bikes.

But what about drop bars?

Should I ditch my alum in favor of steel nitto ones?

PS - Any Farkers out there?
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So you hear the debate between steel & alum bikes.

But what about drop bars?

Should I ditch my alum in favor of steel nitto ones?

PS - Any Farkers out there?
some people like the feel of steel bars, others don't, and steel bars are WAY heavier than alu. ones.
steel bars are also stronger and stiffer than aluminum ones, but unless you're a total monster i doubt it's much of an issue.
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I like my heavy steel nitto bars for stiffness. totally solid, which is important when you're an absolute monster at 150 lbs.
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I have Deda Pista's in steel. Heavy, solid and thick.

I played around with an oversized Deda Pista aluminum track drops attached to one of the new cut-out Thomson stems and the thing was 1/3 of the weight of my Deda bars (26mm, mind you) alone. Stunning.

I haven't ridden with aluminum drops but I doubt there'd be a huge difference in actual performance but I think feel goes a long way, especially on the track. For me, steel is real. No flex, no performance issues.
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ditch both, and go with the easton carbon track bars
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I ride with aluminum bullhorns.
I weigh 205-210, have a lot of upper body strength, and sometimes really use the bars to amplify my spin; and, I can't feel any flex or give.
I can imagine that steel feels better, but I wonder if I could tell a taped steel bar from a taped aluminum bar in the real world (other than more bike weight).
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I like the lightness of the aluminum. I find the steel Nitto bars make the front end of my bike feel like a tank, even though they're stiff as hell.
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I took off the AL bars that were on the c-dale & put the 38cm steel Nittos on. I immediately noticed a huge difference. The steel bars are much suppler. Also substantially heavier, but totally worth it. They just feel better. Especially when I'm not riding on the grips - the road vibrations are much easier on las manos. And theyre dead sexxxy!
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I took off the AL bars that were on the c-dale & put the 38cm steel Nittos on. I immediately noticed a huge difference. The steel bars are much suppler. Also substantially heavier, but totally worth it. They just feel better. Especially when I'm not riding on the grips - the road vibrations are much easier on las manos. And theyre dead sexxxy!
Dude, you could of just sent me a memo!

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How interesting that one rider describes steel as stiff and another rider describes steel as supple.
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Fark is the worst man! Totally terrible. That being said I used to be a pretty hardcore Somethingawful goon in the days of yore. So take that with some salt. mmmm salt....
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Is it sweet or it is savory?
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re: supple
...as a way to describe steel's dampening properties?
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re: supple
...as a way to describe steel's dampening properties?
Yes. Am I an idiot and misusing words again? (Don't answer that, please)
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Is it sweet or it is savory?
Sweet AND savory! deLISH!

We should make up some memo pads. I don't think we have any. Or we can always call the front desk receptionist & have her deliver the messages for us.

I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that?! What the hell is wrong with you people?!
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How interesting that one rider describes steel as stiff and another rider describes steel as supple.
the bars are stiff, but it dampens the road vibrations. Steel is, erm, real?
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Teadoggg wrote:

"Am I an idiot and misusing words again?"

I don't think so.
I wonder if different steel bars can have different heat treatments and thus different characteristics.
Personally, they just seem heavy to me.
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steel is ideal because it has appeal, and a surreal feel better than any automobile (like gliding on a banana peel) don't buy AL an chainwheel or you'll be sat on by rita mcniel and she'll squeal like a baby seal because she just ate an indian meal (her achilles heel).
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steel is ideal because it has appeal, and a surreal feel better than any automobile (like gliding on a banana peel) don't buy AL an chainwheel or you'll be sat on by rita mcniel and she'll squeal like a baby seal because she just ate an indian meal (her achilles heel).

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Or write in haiku!

Try riding steel bars
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there is just something about a rhyme that can stand the test with time. It fills you with mirth for all that mirth is worth. Not to belittle your haiku, but theyre just to easy to do: five, seven, five count your fingers. Man alive no rhymeth lingers.
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this thread is clearly ridiculous at this point in time...
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this thread is clearly ridiculous at this point in time...
I'll stop.
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this thread is clearly ridiculous at this point in time...
And I won't start
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I no longer ride alum bars because it seemed like everytime I would get drunk I would lay the bike over trying to do something very stupid. Then I would be stuck with another set of bent drop bars. With bullhorns it is pretty easy to bend them back, but with alum drop bars it a bit harder.
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