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    Bad News for Bikes

    Ok all, I know this isn't really the place to be doing this but I thought you all might want to know. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor just retired. O'Connor was the first woman justice but more importantly to us the most important swing vote on just about every issue. As bikers this could have some bad effects for us. In other words, less restrictions on the auto industry (=more gigantic monstrosities on the road), harder to file injury lawsuits, terror and F*$!ing chaos descending upon humanity, you know how it is these days. The conservatives run the other two branches of govt and the court is the last thing standing between us and the invading nazi hordes.

    If you wanna do something quick and easy to help just go to pfaw.org and follow the links to petitions and most importantly call you senators (not congresspeople). We gotta make sure we don't get another Scalia or Thomas.

    Sorry about the overtly political message but this is too important.
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    overly political? entirely political works better
    your post didn't make a lot of sense. it seems that you are saying conservatives are taking over the government, and that conservatives are nazis?

    I was hoping you were going to mention that there is a politician who rides a track bike....

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    wow. I didn't think O'Connor would go before Renquist. My fingers were crossed that they'd all stay put for another 3 years. ...guess that wasn't too realistic.

    *cough*roe v. wade*cough*

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    They just ruled Eminent Domain constitutional agian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbaside
    They just ruled Eminent Domain constitutional agian

    there's a group in texas trying to take souter's land so they can build a hotel on it

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    pow! beat you by 1 second, dolface!

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    They just ruled Eminent Domain constitutional agian
    Yeah, and that tearing down homes to put in a strip mall is 'for the greater good.'

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    Damn, I'm slow

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    Yeah this week was full of really big victories but now it's scary. To downtube: yes conservatives are taking over the government and also yes if you want to get technical the nazis were a conservative movement. All I know is that if we get another scalia/thomas we're hosed for every reason imaginable.
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    For domain cases I'm pretty sure they can't strip your house down for a mall. I think it has to be govt. property no?
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    Nazi Conservatives?
    I think that qualifies as an oxymoron.
    The word NAZI stands for "National Socialist German Workers Party," and, politically, this party has only International Communism to its left.
    People tend to use the word Nazi as an epithet and apply it to whomever they don't like.
    In Europe many people describe modern Nazis as on the right, but that only tells the observer how far to the left the European political scene has drifted.
    If anyone wants to discuss this further, I invite them to visit my forum, The Political Arena, where we regularly talk about Nazis, Democrats, Republicans and the like (no bike discussions there, yet).

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    I thought Nazis were frowned upon... well, I guess everything goes in cycles. First the jackie-o look came back, now fascist dictatorships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOnCrank
    For domain cases I'm pretty sure they can't strip your house down for a mall. I think it has to be govt. property no?
    nope, check out the details of the supreme court ruling; the land was taken so the city could sell it to a private developer.

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    Wow, that's a bummer. Ken you're talking economic not social. And on that point I'm sorry that you're wrong again, the Nazis were an economically centrist movement. Keynesian stuff. I don't really think we need to debate their stance socially any further.
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    ImOnCrank wrote:

    "Wow, that's a bummer. Ken you're talking economic not social. And on that point I'm sorry that you're wrong again, the Nazis were an economically centrist movement. Keynesian stuff. I don't really think we need to debate their stance socially any further."

    Let's talk about it in a political forum.
    ImOnCrank can come to my forum or I'll go to his.

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    Nazi Conservatives?
    I think that qualifies as an oxymoron.
    The word NAZI stands for "National Socialist German Workers Party," and, politically, this party has only International Communism to its left.
    People tend to use the word Nazi as an epithet and apply it to whomever they don't like.
    How Rovian of you.

    When someone uses the word Nazi, we know of what and of whom they speak.

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    He then threw a strike from the rubber, and the stadium erupted. Watching from owner George Steinbrennerís box, Karl Rove thought, Itís like being at a Nazi rally." (p. 277)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOnCrank
    If you wanna do something quick and easy to help just go to pfaw.org and follow the links to petitions and most importantly call you senators (not congresspeople). We gotta make sure we don't get another Scalia or Thomas.
    NO WAY! I for one can't wait until the US becomes a police state, then we can become awesome mad-maxian post-apocalyptic underground resistance bike rebels. yes.

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    I don't think it will swing too far to the right. Example- if abortion is overturned, none of the conservative right-wingnut christian (small "c") base will show up to vote on election day.

    Then again, I was surprised at the recent anti-porn laws that quietly (recently) took effect- we are truly reliving the 80s.

    Obscenity? On the internets? You are kidding me, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOnCrank
    Ok all, I know this isn't really the place to be doing this but I thought you all might want to know. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor just retired. O'Connor was the first woman justice but more importantly to us the most important swing vote on just about every issue. As bikers this could have some bad effects for us. In other words, less restrictions on the auto industry (=more gigantic monstrosities on the road), harder to file injury lawsuits, terror and F*$!ing chaos descending upon humanity, you know how it is these days. The conservatives run the other two branches of govt and the court is the last thing standing between us and the invading nazi hordes.

    If you wanna do something quick and easy to help just go to pfaw.org and follow the links to petitions and most importantly call you senators (not congresspeople). We gotta make sure we don't get another Scalia or Thomas.

    Sorry about the overtly political message but this is too important.

    So if one person leaving the judicial branch can create that much chaos, then one person -- namely yourself -- can reverse it. What's your plan?
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    There's usually a discrepancy between a common cyclist's (no offense) influence on federal constitutional issues and that of a Supreme Court judge's.

    But I like your gung-ho attitude.

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    re: emminent domain

    the old rulling stated that in order for private land to be taken it had to be for public works, which was interpreted to mean that it could only be taken for government projects, IE highways, dams, or other such infrastructural projects

    the new ruling as i understand rephrases it as "public benefit" which means that private land can be taken under iminent domain and sold to private developers who plan projects that have "public access"

    this is a huge deal especially here in NYC as many brooklyn residents (possibly some on this forum?) are at risk of their property being seized under imminent domain laws to be sold to Ratmer's development company to make a new stadium for the NJ Nets...this new ruling will help him since a stadium is accessible to the public

    additionally the law speaks of just compensation for any seized property, but it is important to realize that "just compensation" is not the same as "fair market value" and often considers only the current (non market) value of the property and the revenue it is currently generating, if any, for the owner, and not what the future "developed" properrty value will be...this boils down to the little people getting screwed in favor of "development"

    anyway...enough ranting...sorry...back to bikes

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    its pretty much bad news for social progress all around.

    bush is going to appoint another religious conservative ****er that takes us back in time, away from social equality, and further out of step with the rest of the world.

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