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Old 07-01-05, 10:56 AM   #1
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Wheelset Recommendations

I need some feed back on a good wheelset to buy. I am trying to decide whether to go with the Velocity deep wheels or not. DO they make a difference? What is a better hub? Surly or IRO. Are there some less expensive but still good rims that i could put on some better hubs? Any thoughts.
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Old 07-01-05, 11:01 AM   #2
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the Mavic MA3 is a really solid rim and not too flashy especially if your bike is classic. It all depends on your bike - you don't want a modern rim on a classic ride or vice versa. What type of hub?
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I haven't tried that many different wheelsets, but I like my Van Dessels. Good bang for the buck, IMHO.
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I don't know. None of us have ever tried any of those products. We cannot answer any of your questions. Go somewhere else.

or use the search function, if you aren't just out from under the bridge, chatting with the 3 billy goats gruff.
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I like my surlys... I hear that they are better than the iros but I have never ridden them so... if you do get surly hubs see if they can send you an extra set of locknuts because they have a tendency to crack if you torque down your track nuts alot.
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IRO Hubs, Velocity deepV hoops seem to be a pretty decent setup. I've gotten alot of good miles out of mine with no issues besides a couple of squeeks.

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I'd like to plug our rear hubs.

They're based on a downhill MTB hub so the manufacturer rates them for extreme duty.

They're track threaded on both sides.

They're built with SKF bearings and crack-proof nuts.

32H, 120mm and 135mm (which works just fine with 130mm spacing).

And plenty of axle for tugs -AND- pegs.

$50 which includes shipping.
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i'm running a deep v on the front, aerohead on the back -- both from iro. the front was an aerohead until i got hit by a car. the rim got knocked out of true and wouldn't stay true because of some stressing around the spoke holes... but i mean, this is to be expected if you get hit by a car. i hear the deep vs will stay true for longer than the aeroheads, but i haven't really had it long enough to speak from experience. the deep profile also makes the rim a lot stronger, of course a necessity for the mean streets of columbus.

if you do have tony from iro build you up a wheelset, make sure you ask him to lace the front 3x -- by default he does it 2x. if you are going for something more cost effective, roll with the aeroheads, you won't regret it. if you want something stronger and slightly more expensive, go with the deep vs.
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How long did it take you guys to get your wheelset from IRO? I'm going to be ordering my set next Friday, but I'm not sure if I should tell him in advance just so it doesn't take forever. I was figuring a week including shipping time.
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Just curious, but why deep V? I mean they weigh a lot and are not that much tougher than a regular aero type rim like the aerohead or anything of the like (campy omega) The deep V does look pretty bad ass, but there are a few other rim companies that make much deeper wheels. I canīt think of the model off of the top of my head but I think that ambrosio makes a deeper wheel and some of the older mavic stuff was much deeper. But still un-necessary... well I donīt know Iīm not exactly an authority on wheels and someone built like me 5ī9" 135lbs doesnīt really need the toughest wheel on the block. I just wouldnīt put something super tough on my bike if it were not necessary but then I donīt need anything that tough.

oh yah... I love my IRO hubs. The only reason Iīm getting new ones is because I want all italian.
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They're built with SKF bearings and crack-proof nuts.

And plenty of axle for tugs -AND- pegs.
Hey, cool hubs! Do you sell a matching front?

Gotta ask though, which SKF bearings, and do you sell them individually?

Also, PEGS!!! I need pegs on my fixie in a bad way, can anyone recommend a good set of pegs that won't bend the crap out of my axle?

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Oh, and to answer the original question... Mavic MA3 rims are great standard rims. The Aerohead and DeepV rims look cool as well, and are very strong.

As for hubs, IROs get rave reviews for the price, Surly makes good stuff, and even the Nashbar track hubs are quite nice, especially at 45$ for the pair. I've not used the Kogswell hubs, but the kogswell kids make good reputable stuff, and I have no reason to believe that they aren't well made hubs.

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It is a vintage white Matsuri Japanese track frame (sweet) i thought about going with some aero rims and IRO hubs, but just wanted to check first. I wanted to set up a bike from all vintage track **** but i am going to have to buy new wheels. There is no way around it. I don't know,
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If it's a vintage and white you should go with a classic look, like Open Pros. It'd look mismatched and geeky with Deep Vs.
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NOOOOOO!!!!! Get a set of older silver araya rims and polish 'em 'till you can see yer face in 'em. I think I have one araya rim... Iīll sell it to you cheap if you can find the other.
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this might be heading off topic a bit, if so sorry i don't want to hijack the thread.

i just had a wheel built with a 36h phil wood hub and deep v rims. I kept reading how they were both strong but heavy. From what i could tell it was lighter than the stock wheel it replaced on my khs flight100. Not dramatically, like half the weight, but enough that holding both i could tell the difference. I never had a super light bike so i might not know the difference.

I thought i would mention it if someone is searching on here for research and was worried about weight.
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How long did it take you guys to get your wheelset from IRO? I'm going to be ordering my set next Friday, but I'm not sure if I should tell him in advance just so it doesn't take forever. I was figuring a week including shipping time.
it can take quite a while -- when i ordered my replacement front deep v, tony had to ship his hub to velocity and they built up the wheel there... i think it took about 3 weeks
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it can take quite a while -- when i ordered my replacement front deep v, tony had to ship his hub to velocity and they built up the wheel there... i think it took about 3 weeks
yeah, mine only took a couple days cause he already had it ready to go. if you want fixed/fixed or any certain color, i would call ahead.
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It is a vintage white Matsuri Japanese track frame (sweet) i thought about going with some aero rims and IRO hubs, but just wanted to check first. I wanted to set up a bike from all vintage track **** but i am going to have to buy new wheels. There is no way around it. I don't know,
Oh, in that case you're going to need some high-flange DA 7600's laced to something shiny.
Yeah, the arayas would be sweet, if you can find them.
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If it's a vintage and white you should go with a classic look, like Open Pros. It'd look mismatched and geeky with Deep Vs.

Youre right on that. I am building up a fixie with a 70's frame. I wondered what it would look like (blue frame) with my blue rims from my cyclox, which also happen to be blue and deep v. It looked horrid! Deep Vs on a classic frame do NOT work.
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Hey, cool hubs! Do you sell a matching front?

Gotta ask though, which SKF bearings, and do you sell them individually?
HubJub stocks Kogswell fronts.

We let our stock run out because we're encouraging our customers use dyno/gen front hubs.

And the rears use series 6000 (26x10) bearings.

We don't stock them, but the nice lady at the local bearing supply calls them 2R2s.
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Anybody know about Velocity Fusion Rims? Seems like this is a pretty nice rim, too but I notice that more people ride the deep v's. What's the difference? Thanks.
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if its about style for you then you do have a few options

on my more classic looking JohnnyCoast frame i have phil wood hubs laced to mavic open pro rims...the combo is definately super light and very tough...a few months of riding them 2-3 times a week on nyc streets, huge potholes and all, and they are still smooth and true...only drawback is taht it is a smoewhat pricey combo

on my significantly less classis looking persuit bike i have a velocity deep-V rear and mavic cpx-33 front, both laced to IRO hubs...i ride this bike the other 4-5 days of the week as my commuter and also have no complaints...both ride nice and smooth

i will say though that if you can afford it, owning a classic bike and all you might want to think about the phill wood/ open pro combo...the look will be more classic...not to mention that the deep-v's are quite heavy, bombproof, but heavy
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Hey Kogswell.....Nice hubs...what type of alloy do you use for those rear hubs and who machines them....US, Japan?

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Mavic Open Pro.
Classic and bombproof.
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