jinx_removing

Over the years I have changed many a cog however I have never seen anything like this. I am trying to get the lockring off and it just will not budge(seriously, with all of the power I can muster). Before you ask any questions:

1) Yes, I am turning it the right way
2) No, I did not use locktite on it
3) I am using the modified hozan lockring wrench, which has never failed me before
4) When I installed the lockring I used a fair amount of grease on the threads and I did not tourque the hell out of it.

Outside of bringing it down to the LBS I am not sure what to do. I have the tools at hand so I'd rather keep this DIY. Ideas?

Thanks,
Neale

phidauex

You may try applying gentle heat with a propane torch or heat gun, then give it another hit with the wrench (watch your hands).

If you are content to mangle the the lockring a bit, you could grab the lockring in a vice, sink the teeth in a bit, and then unscrew using the whole wheel. Make sure you visualize the right direction to turn it, then verify, then verify again. With the lockring down, and the wheel horizontal, you'd turn the wheel clockwise. It'll take a serious piece of lockring to resist that sort of unrestrained torque.

Good luck. Never give up.

peace,
sam

jinx_removing

The vice idea may be the last resort method. I've been meaning to buy one for a long time now anyway.

weed eater

Harris has a lockring-vise-grip sort of tool that may be of help, but it'll take a while and cost money.

Have you tried liquid wrench?

here's the tool I am thinking of

https://harriscyclery.net/site/itemdetails.cfm?ID=536

whoa! I see that it's eighty bucks and out of stock. Other than that, it's perfect.

bostontrevor

Indeed. For example, with the lockring down, and the wheel horizontal, you'd turn counter-clockwise.

sloppy robot

hmmm, im coming up with clockwise in my head.. i think he had it right the first time

Paul And Pista

I had to actually picture it, but I'm with BT on this one. Edit: I'm picturing looking at the opposite side of the hub, not the stuck lockring side.

bostontrevor

Nope, I'm wrong. It's clockwise. Think twice.

sloppy robot

i..um..going to have to...disagree with you.. still... the lockring is left threaded..so from the back side.. turning the hub clockwise makes the lockring(from the front side) turn clockwise also....

South Fulcrum

Never fails me. And, it makes me feel like a kid again.

baxtefer

clockwise.

bostontrevor

Right, which is exactly the direction it needs to go to loosen up.

weed eater

This is my new favorite thread. Someone alert IraInChi.

today's lesson: you gotta be the lockring.

sloppy robot

sorry... i posted that at the same time you posted yours.. i was talking about what the other duder said..

i had a stuck lockring recently.. what worked for me was a lockring tool wiith three notches instead of one and a rubber mallet to hit the tool a few times once in place.. presto

phidauex

See, I told you it'd be hard to figure out. I think the masses have finally spoke: Clockwise.

A regular set of giant vice grips would probably work as well, but again, they may tear up the lockring.

peace,
sam

phidauex

Imagine this... The lockring, fixed in a vice, is a threaded hole. The wheel is a screw, which you must unscrew from said hole. Normally you'd go counter clockwise, because lefty is loosey, but because its a lockring, you do the opposite of what you'd expect. Clockwise.

peace,
sam

Paul And Pista

Yes, I'm definitely talking about something slightly different. So clockwise if you're attempting this how phidauex was explaining it. This is pointless, but I thought I'd post it anyway in the interest of unanimity.

WithNail

I have used a frame straightener (park tools has one either the motorcycle one or bicycle one) to get off any ultra-stuck parts. It creates so much leverage that you could probably take anything off with this thing. All you have to do is hook it on to the lockring wrench like an extention and instant leverage. The only problem would be finding such a tool... I think they're pretty expensive.

BostonFixed

Cold chisel and a hammer?

jinx_removing

Now THAT'S DIY!

Erich Zann

yeah i tried using a cheater bar on my lockring tool and it was so stuck that i broke both slots in my lockring. i was turning it the correct way, too. i guess im sticking with a 16t on that hub.

jinx_removing

Just an update. I thank phidauex for the heat advice. I tried that at first with no luck but then I hit it with a little WD40 and a little more heat and she went off like a prom dress. Thanks!