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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 07-29-05, 04:43 PM   #1
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Arcticle on fixed from an unfixed rider

Fixed riders in the eyes of a 10/12 speeder:

http://web.gc.cuny.edu/advocate/DEC0...kehierarch.htm

He sure has some good points though!
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Old 07-29-05, 04:54 PM   #2
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Bleah - typical college ranting essay.

Plus he spelled brakes, "breaks".

Come on! Who's editing this stuff?

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Old 07-29-05, 04:55 PM   #3
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I couldn't really get through the article, but it does amaze me that

1. a PhD candidate in the humanities wouldn't know how to spell "brake"
2. a publication would not correct his spelling mistake.

edit: damn, absntr beat me to it. Hey naz, you misspelled "this"
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Old 07-29-05, 05:00 PM   #4
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yea.. that was awful.. im not against a critical assesment of something.. but without trying it first? its painful to read.. give some credit to the bike and the fact that they are fun and a whole different feel then a freewheel bike, please.. and spare the intelectual banter on whose riding them.. everyone loves to bash the "hip" but every so often, they are into something becaues it is actually good.. isnt that what slightly makes them "hip" ..i know.. there all sorts of exceptions to this rule.. but sometimes they get it right..
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Old 07-29-05, 05:04 PM   #5
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edit: damn, absntr beat me to it. Hey naz, you misspelled "this"
What are you talking about? It says "this" up there.

(Thankfully I can edit myself!)
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Old 07-29-05, 05:06 PM   #6
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I couldn't really get through the article, but it does amaze me that

1. a PhD candidate in the humanities wouldn't know how to spell "brake"
2. a publication would not correct his spelling mistake.

edit: damn, absntr beat me to it. Hey naz, you misspelled "this"
Yeah, BUT, note the use of 'prima facie'
damn
lends a (pseudo) philosophical bit of credibilty to his argument
(NOT REALLY)

hard to take anything seriously from a social scientist
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Old 07-29-05, 05:07 PM   #7
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goddamnit those parentheses are driving me crazy.
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Old 07-29-05, 05:10 PM   #8
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Yeah, BUT, note the use of 'prima facie'
yeah that was hilarious.

"chided" was also a gem.

plus this is real undergrad stuff. if "exoticizing otherness" passes for the dizzy heights of doctorate reasoning these days i'll keep my bachelors in cultural anthropology and get on with life in the real world.

but he's on the money, have to admit. still, we know all that

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Old 07-29-05, 05:22 PM   #9
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goddamnit those parentheses are driving me crazy.
I hear you! What a terrible article! This guy seems to want a fixie badly. I mean there is something in between the lines that says: Oh, I would so much like to be one of the free spirited fixie riders.
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Old 07-29-05, 05:26 PM   #10
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exotic! how exotic!
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Well he is "admittedly curious"
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Old 07-29-05, 05:39 PM   #12
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Plus he spelled brakes, "breaks".
He'd fit right in around here.
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Old 07-29-05, 05:59 PM   #13
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Garbage.



In fact, I almost wrote nothing more. But what utter absolute trash. The guy has by his own admission never ridden a fixed gear for anything like an extended amount of time nor has he actually done any research among the participants in said activity to try to understand why they like it. Further, he conflates fixed gear, track bike, and brakeless with complete obliviousness. Which, I suppose, is to be expected since he didn't bother with even cursory research.

That article might as well have been titled, "My Preconceptions and Why Others Suck."
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with a slightly ironic twist..he seems kinda proud of his 10 speed.. in a luddite kinda way.. like his is the new old? track is the old new? what..? its even confusing me to try and say it.. but it reminds me of people arguing about who ripped off planet of the apes first.. and i dont know why....hows that for a clear explanation.. don't worry.. im not a teacher..
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Old 07-29-05, 06:56 PM   #15
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I, me (meaning myself, and not any of my friends[who I am affraid to piss off{or otherwise feel less than**],) .......Where was I going with this.........Oh, yeah!.......Uh...."Ad hoc, ad loc, and quid pro quo. So, little time, so much to know!" Me head needs a brake.
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I, me (meaning myself, and not any of my friends[who I am affraid to piss off{or otherwise feel less than**],) .......Where was I going with this.........Oh, yeah!.......Uh...."Ad hoc, ad loc, and quid pro quo. So, little time, so much to know!" Me head needs a brake.
Even babelfish couldn't help me with this one.
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Old 07-29-05, 07:28 PM   #17
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I, me (meaning myself, and not any of my friends[who I am affraid to piss off{or otherwise feel less than**],) .......Where was I going with this.........Oh, yeah!.......Uh...."Ad hoc, ad loc, and quid pro quo. So, little time, so much to know!" Me head needs a brake.
It's written like a third-rate blog entry. I kept reading it waiting for him to throw in an OMG, LOL!
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Old 07-29-05, 07:36 PM   #18
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so other than the pointless anti-fixie stance, i think the author has some interesting points about how coolness operates.
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Old 07-29-05, 07:42 PM   #19
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I thought the idea of a "modern day corset" was interesting.

I'm not planning on using my ENO fixed rear wheel (when I'm finished with it) on anything but flatish ground on recovery days. I just like the fact that it forces you to keep pedaling for training purposes.

Honestly, he is probably right. The practicality is not great. I'll take a multi-geared bike anytime I expect to be riding under a wide speed range if I'm shooting for efficiency. Exercise isn't always about efficiency though.
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Actually, though, it's worth noting that in part II at http://web.gc.cuny.edu/advocate/OCT0...FixedBikes.htm , you can read how he actually tried riding a fixie for a while and found out that -- surprise -- he really liked it. I still think he's got a weird anti-"hipster" thing going on, but I'll give him credit for putting his money where his mouth is bike-wise.
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Old 07-29-05, 07:56 PM   #21
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so, i did rtfa (both of 'em), and part II is a far more coherent (albeit not especially[indeed, barely {at best**])] piece than part I (written [if we are to believe him* {the writer**]) BEFORE part II

nevertheless, and regardless, his points are so buried under an avalanche of extraneous punctuation and stylistic textual posturing that he loses credibility.

it reads like he got baked, read halfway through 'infinite jest', decided that was a GREAT way to write (which it is, if you're david foster wallace) sat down at the computer, crawled up his own Phd. student a$$, and got lost.





*i assume he is male based (in part) on the name on the byline.
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Not to mention the fact that he was really trying hard to backpedal (no pun intended) from part I without saying, sorry, I was an ass.
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those were pretty load-o-crappy articles. just simply not intersting to read, there were no real points made, and this macho/masochism thing is easily replaced in part 1(2) with some strange ZEN coolness. dolt.
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I like the "anti-snob" comment...We might be able to apply that here (maybe?)...
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What is a 10 or 12 speed? Both Campy and Shimano both make 20 and 30 speeds- with a 10 "speed" cassette... has this guy been hibernating for a few decades?
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