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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 08-06-05, 03:49 PM   #1
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does the rivendell quickbeam make anyone else drool?

http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/htm...quickbeam.html

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Old 08-06-05, 04:01 PM   #2
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it's pretty, except for those ugly pully-style brakes.
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Old 08-06-05, 04:04 PM   #3
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not cc is it? why the cantis?
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Old 08-06-05, 04:07 PM   #4
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cc?
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The Quickbeam is the cannonical four-speed bike. And darned nice, too.


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Old 08-06-05, 04:18 PM   #6
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In a word, yes.

I think cc = cyclocross which is more traditionally abbreviated cx.

But the quickbeam is dead sexy like so much of what Riv does. Of course if I got one I'd have to immediately rebuild the rear wheel around a flip-flop hub. Sorry, gang, but I loves me a fixed gear.

As far as why canties instead of sidepulls... eh, why not? Frankly, they're the best rim brake out there. Actually, some will say that linear sidepulls (ie, v-brake) is, but that's just because centerpull cantis have been neutered for liability reasons.

On top of that, they allow for a nice fat tire if that's your thing and fenders for said fat tire, too.
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Of course if I got one I'd have to immediately rebuild the rear wheel around a flip-flop hub.
The stock Quickbeam hub is flip/flop free/free.

And if any Quickbeam owners want to switch to a Kogswell rear hub, we have an upgrade program. Write us for details.
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whats the kogswell f frame run?
anything in the 63cm area?
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nice brakes ugh
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The stock Quickbeam hub is flip/flop free/free.
Right, that's sort of what I meant. As I said, I'd like to run a fixed gear on that bike.
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The answer is no. But you have to say it like John McLaughlin when he's yellin' at Eleanor Clift.
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i really like rivendell's take on things in general, but their insistence that the quickbeam be equipped with two chainrings and no fixed hub strikes me as downright odd. I do like the frame and the innovative dropouts/"track" ends. i guess if i wanted to spend that much on a fixed gear frame (and i might, someday) I would get the frame and build it up myself.
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i really like rivendell's take on things in general, but their insistence that the quickbeam be equipped with two chainrings and no fixed hub strikes me as downright odd.
Agreed. I'm often simultaneously impressed and annoyed at their insistence that if they're going to build a bike, it will be built in a particular way. I mean, it would be easy for them to ship a conventional fixed/free hub allowing the customer to run either two freewheels or a freewheel and a fixed gear. Or ever go fixed/fixed and allow any combination of single speeds.

Still, for the cash, it's probably no big deal to add in the cost of a set of spokes and hub to rebuild the wheel if that's your thing.
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It occurs to me that they may have painted themselves into a corner with the two rings--after deciding to go that route, they couldn't very well put a fixed gear cog on it and (responsibly) sell it to a neophyte singlespeed user, since if you "shifted" to a different ring while riding fixed, the chainline would be too far off...causing death, dismemberment, and lawsuits.
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when I look at that bike, all I can think: DIE.

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whats the kogswell f frame run?
anything in the 63cm area?
The F has been replaced by the G.



Forum decorum prevents me from talking about prices.

And we dont have a 62 as such. But we add 2cm to the top head lug. And we cut the fork 2cm long. And since the head angle is steeper than the seat angle, as you move the stem and post up, the effective T/T length increases. So, the locknut on a 58 is where it would be on a normal 62. And if you trim the fork, where it would be on a 60. So our frames are 62/60 and 58/56, effectively.

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uh...so this means if I like a 56/56, I should get the 54?
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what about cash money? expensive?
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Totally not into it the way they have it set up. I could fly with one if it was set up with cruiser bars, a big wicker basket, white walled tires and a Swallow. But only on nice days, to go to the store , and other such activities.
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uh...so this means if I like a 56/56, I should get the 54?
Exactly.
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when I look at that bike, all I can think: DIE.

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You, good sir, wound me to the core. 'Tis toerags such as yourself that are bringing inestimable heartache to the cardigan wearing set. Good day.
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The Quickbeam has the cantis because they refuse to build a production bike that can't be outfitted with really fat tires and fenders.
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I've had a Riv QB for about six months now. It is unique, and my sense is that it is well thought out. The two chainrings are useful, and the chainline with the inner ring is obviously not quite 42 mm, but it works fine for off road riding. To me, the QB is closest to a SS cyclocross bike or a SS touring machine. It works well both on and off road, and is very stable on high speed descents (a Riv trademark). I can take my hands off the bars at 30 mph and it tracks straight and true. When I considered the purchase, I was concerned that it would be ponderous like a lot of touring machines because of the slack angles, but it's really quite a lot of fun.

Mine is set up as a bit more of a "go-fast" bike than many QB's. I've got a SSM Rolls saddle and the bars are an inch lower than the saddle. Initially I found the bike to be a bit "short" and I had difficulty getting really comfortable on it. This is probably because the Riv philosophy emphasizes getting the bars high for a more upright position. I ended up getting a longer stem and am now much more comfortable.

Another reservation I had was that the rims are fairly wide Araya touring types and the stock tires are Panaracer Pasela 32's. That's wider than I really need, and at some point I'll probably get some lighter and narrower wheels built up and run Pasela TG 28's instead. [Hey Kogswell, what's the deal on your "upgrade"?] That being said, the Pasela 32's don't seem to slow me down much. I've started taking the QB to all but the fastest club rides/practice races, and it seems to keep up fine. I quickly found the stock 18t freewheel to be too low for road riding, and am running a 16t instead. The 40x16 combination allows me to keep up with a group at 18-22 mph without much difficulty. Earlier today some fellows on a club ride wound it up to 28 in order to drop me and I totally ran out of gear at 26 mph. Fortunately they did not maintain it and I caught back up. You definitely learn to spin with a road SS or fixed.

I initially tried to run flat pedals as Grant Peterson suggests, but quickly discovered that I need some foot restraint. I abominate clips and straps, so I'm currently using some Shimano SPD's I borrowed from my son. The SPD's leave much to be desired so I have some Crank Bros Candy's on order.

The cheapo Shimano canti brakes work fine once you replace the pads with Kool Stops. They are easy to adjust, but the stock Shimano rubber is awful. Initially I got a lot of drive train noise, but that went away when I replaced the stock chain with a SRAM PC-58.

All in all, the QB is a lot of fun. Hope this helps.

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Hey Kogswell, what's the deal on your "upgrade"?
Email us and we'll give you the low-down: info@kogswell.com
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