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    I am an incurable. delay's Avatar
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    Don't do what I did (buying a park lockring wrench)

    I ignored all advice to the contrary and purchased a park tools lockring wrench. I needed one immediately, and it was all the LBS in town carried. This was the worst 16 dollars I have spent in a long time. The thing was barely willing to grab the lockring. The tooth on the end seems like it is actually curved in some way. I am also fairly certain that the metal is so soft that I thought I was going to break it.

    Whatever you do, don't buy this wrench.

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    Yep, that thing is a real POS. Not even a very good paper weight. Park tools are overpriced, and often of marginal function. I don't understand why they seem to have such a loyal following.

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    get the wrenchforce one, or if you're having a rich moment, some lockring pliers.

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    Yeah the Park ones suck some serious ass.

    You can, however, make them serviceable.
    if you stick a penny/washer/something else thin and flat between the curve and the lockring, the Park wrench tends to suck a bit less.

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    Get the Hozan lockring pliers from Business Cycles - probably the best tool I own.

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    Anyone have any experience with the Hozan Hook Spanner (http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/fixedgear.html)? Sheldon seems to think it's a pretty good tool, and I don't have the $$$ for a set of pliers.

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    the pliers are awsome. I'm getting a pair when I have the extra cash flow. They will get any lockring off, including ones that were locktite on. They go hand in hand with the wheel manufacturer chain whip.
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    Get the Hozan lockring pliers from Business Cycles - probably the best tool I own.
    Honestly, I could spring for the pliers at the price John is selling them, but I'm a bit suspicious as to why they're only $37 and sheldon's pliers are $80...

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    I really like the Hozan lockring hook-wrench. I got one for $5 from one of the LBS in SF that was selling off the tools from a store they closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky-Charms
    Anyone have any experience with the Hozan Hook Spanner (http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/fixedgear.html)? Sheldon seems to think it's a pretty good tool, and I don't have the $$$ for a set of pliers.
    A piece of the hook end of mine broke off in a blaze of bloody glory. Up until that point, I liked it alright . Go with the pliers. Seriously. It's what I should have done in the first place.

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    i've never had any trouble with my hozan wrench -- i'm a fan.

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    some day when i get an obscene amount of money, i'll get the MAKINO PRO TOOL SUPER:


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    If you get the Park lockring wrench w/ the 3-tooth side (for low-end Campy BBs, I think), it works pretty well.

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    i should clarify that I wasn't trying to slam the hozan wrench. it worked well for me, for a long time, and the breakage and bloodiness were definitely brought on my a bit of stupidity on my part. I'm just offering the advice that with the pliers, you have the guarantee of no surprise slipping. Which is nice. And I wish I had gone that route.

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    its seem like the wrench that sheldon sells is different from the Hozan wrench that business cycles sell. I can vouch for the hozan one. I've seen it in action plenty of times and that thing is solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmother
    Yep, that thing is a real POS. Not even a very good paper weight. Park tools are overpriced, and often of marginal function. I don't understand why they seem to have such a loyal following.
    I have to agree with you. The one most useless piece in their crankset tool: http://www.parktool.com/tools/CCP_2.shtml
    I don't know anyone who has ever been able to remove a crankset using one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker
    I have to agree with you. The one most useless piece in their crankset tool: http://www.parktool.com/tools/CCP_2.shtml
    I don't know anyone who has ever been able to remove a crankset using one of those.
    ??? That's the one that I use, and I've never had any problems with it...

    I've got the Hozan lockring tool (not the pliers) and have been really satisfied with it. The LBS that I ordered it from had it in their DIY shop, and I was really impressed compared to the Park, which is what I'd used before. I asked them to order the same wrench, but they accidentally ordered the Park instead. I sent it back and made sure that they got me the Hozan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker
    I have to agree with you. The one most useless piece in their crankset tool: http://www.parktool.com/tools/CCP_2.shtml
    I don't know anyone who has ever been able to remove a crankset using one of those.
    What are you talking about? That tool is the shop standard for removing standard square tapered cotterless cranks. I've personally removed more cranksets than I can count with that specific tool. The only reason I don't suggest buying it is because you can get one of the ones without a handle that uses an allen key to wrench the crank off, and it's 1/4 of the size and 1/2 the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobs
    What are you talking about? That tool is the shop standard for removing standard square tapered cotterless cranks. I've personally removed more cranksets than I can count with that specific tool. The only reason I don't suggest buying it is because you can get one of the ones without a handle that uses an allen key to wrench the crank off, and it's 1/4 of the size and 1/2 the price.
    not to mention that the handleless one works on octalink/isis cranks too.

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    so for someone who is building up a tool set, what brands/tools should i get? what should i spend the money on?

    maybe that should be its own thread.

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    You usually can't go wrong with Park. Pedros makes some nice tools too.

    However, Park tools that suck (feel free to add to this list):
    1. Tire Levers
    2. Lockring Wrench.

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    i have the wrenchforce one. its good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olebiker
    I have to agree with you. The one most useless piece in their crankset tool: http://www.parktool.com/tools/CCP_2.shtml
    I don't know anyone who has ever been able to remove a crankset using one of those.
    I fourth [?] this veto. That tool has pulled many-a-crank, and I bought it used as hell. I actually think it's one of my favorite tools behind my hammer.
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    Yup, love the crank puller.

    #1 useless is the brake toe-in tool. I think it's discontinued now, which is fine because a) modern brakes have a screw to adjust toe-in on the pads and b) if they don't, you can use a pliers or vice grip to accomplish the same damn thing.

    But the track lockring wrench does suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baxtefer
    You usually can't go wrong with Park. Pedros makes some nice tools too.

    However, Park tools that suck (feel free to add to this list):
    1. Tire Levers
    2. Lockring Wrench.
    Chainwhip sucks, too.

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