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Old 08-09-05, 02:48 PM   #1
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I was just reading some questions about wheel building and it brought up a question of my own. I'm getting a set of Mavic CXP 30 tubular rims (thanks dubteka) that i'm gonna try building up myself. the front is 28 hole and the rear is 36. i like the look of radial lacing but i'm not sure if i could do it on both the front and rear rims or if radial lacing would even be structurally sound enough. they'll be used as Fixed training/ track tires so strength may be an issue. Anyone have any advice on strength requirements, hubs to use, good spokes, etc.? Also... i know "The Omnipotent" Sheldon Brown has some stuff on his site about wheel building but it's all about 3x and not radial. anyone have any links to radial lacing info or other related onfo that may help?

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Old 08-09-05, 03:32 PM   #2
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Here's another websource http://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co.uk/WheelBuild/
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do not radially lace your rear wheel. it's not a good idea. i'm sure that most will agree.
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well, do not radial lace the drive side of your rear wheel. use good, expensive spokes too.
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Radial on front will be fine. Don't even think about putting it on the rear, your power transfer will blow. Although radial non-drive side in the rear can be cool. Very cool. 3x on the other side?

As for strength, 14ga will be pretty bombproof, possibly overkill if you're a light rider. So if you don't treat your bike super nice (and why should you) then that might be good. If you want to save a little rotating weight consider butted spokes to keep some strength.

If you search, I'm sure there's plenty of info on the different spoke options.

Oh yeah, and the thing about good expensive spokes, very true. I work with DT a lot. Good stuff. Check out www.icyclesusa.com for good prices per spoke, so you don't have to buy a gross of every size.
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Or just go to your LBS who will probably have a better deal on spokes especially after shipping.

Edit: yeah, I just did some shopping and to get a wheel's worth of DT Champions and nipples, I'm coming in $7 over what I pay at the shop ($16 + tax).
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Front radial, rear 3x.

DT 14g spokes
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Front radial, rear 3x.

DT 14g spokes

straight forward and to the point.. i like your style. i think thats the direction i'm headed in. although the different methods from http://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co.uk/WheelBuild/ look pretty sweet. this is gonna be my first attempt to lace a wheel by myself. has anyone tried any of those methods and do you think they're a little much for a beginner?
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straight forward and to the point.. i like your style. i think thats the direction i'm headed in. although the different methods from http://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co.uk/WheelBuild/ look pretty sweet. this is gonna be my first attempt to lace a wheel by myself. has anyone tried any of those methods and do you think they're a little much for a beginner?
i have a really great pdf that i got from a wheel-building class, pm me with your email address and i'll send it to you if you like.
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I don't think I would do any fancy lacing for a first wheel build. I decided against that myself. I'll be lacing up wheels for the first time tomorrow when my hubs [finally] come in.
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