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Old 08-10-05, 08:39 PM   #1
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im working on making a bike for longer rides.. i have a schwinn madison that seems to be the right fit for this.. and i was curious about moustache bars.. ive never had them.. are they comfy for long rides or just style? whats the long ride fixed gear bar of choice? i havent been paying attention.. sorry.. and ...thanks..
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The biggest problem with mustache bars is your limited hand position options. The reason touring bikes all have drop bars is not just aerodynamics but because of the variety of hand positions you can switch to. The logic goes, the more places you have to put your hands, the less fatigue you will feel because you'll be constantly changing where you put pressure. Mustache bars look great but they are considered "around town" bars and not really for long distances. I've never seen a touring dude with them. You also didn't mention what you consider a "long" ride.
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ah... i dont know.. i guess.. over 20 miles? a few hours without stopping kind of rides..i hear ya on the drops.. but without brake hoods its not as great.. i guess i could put some on..

thanks.. your pretty much answered my question
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I also have a bare madison frame and am not sure which bars to use. I use moustache bars on my steamroller so I might use bullhorns on the schwinn. As mentioned, m-bars are good for around town riding, maybe a couple of hours or so...
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ive been rolling with moustache bars for the past year or so...
i like em alot, definitely comfortable. havent had a problem with long rides.
ive been thinking about trying out some bullhorns though too.
for the hand positions, it might depend on the bars you get. mine have a nice straight middle section that i can put both hands on if i dont want to use the grips on the sides
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The biggest problem with mustache bars is your limited hand position options.
I disagree, there are a good number of hand positions (the link neglects to show the most rearward position). Unless I'm just running to the store, all of my rides are over 20 miles, last weekend was 65 in hilly country. I've done several 2 and 3 day tours on them. Plenty of different places to shift my hands, been riding them for several years and love them.

What Rivendell has to say about them:

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Moustache Handlebars (sold mainly by us, so keep that in mind when you read this praise) offer lots of different hand positions, and a more upright position than do drops. They’re ideal for commuting, off-road, and longer rides. They offer an easier and more upright access to powerful braking than do drops—good for commuting and trail rides, and not a drawback ever. What they don’t offer is a hand position next to the stem, which some riders can’t or won’t give up. But Moustache H’bar fans are quick to point out that the outer grip position accommodates the same upright body position as the next-to-stem grip on a drop bar, and offers better bike control. It is more important on Moustache Handlebars to get the bars level or slightly higher than the saddle. Sometimes that means using an up-stem. Also, go shorter on the extension.
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Hmm. Mine are great around town and excellent on trails, but I did a long ride recently (75 miles) and they weren't so good. YMMV: I'm a fat bloke who puts a lot of weight on his hands.
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Mustache bars look great but they are considered "around town" bars and not really for long distances. I've never seen a touring dude with them. You also didn't mention what you consider a "long" ride.
I'll have to have a word with myself then, we just did a 75 miler this past weekend on the moustached XO-3. I've got em set up much like the Stanford illustration, complete with dummy levers and they are a real pleasure to ride. But the key is getting them high and tight. When I originally set them up, they were about 2cm lower and the ride wasn't as pleasant.

I've got a set on my Raleigh conversion now, still need to do some component swapping to get them a bit higher.
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The biggest problem with mustache bars is your limited hand position options. The reason touring bikes all have drop bars is not just aerodynamics but because of the variety of hand positions you can switch to. The logic goes, the more places you have to put your hands, the less fatigue you will feel because you'll be constantly changing where you put pressure. Mustache bars look great but they are considered "around town" bars and not really for long distances. I've never seen a touring dude with them. You also didn't mention what you consider a "long" ride.
I've seen fully loaded tourers using moustaches... also, I highly doubt many tourers spend much (if any) time riding in the drops when the have drop bars- most use either the tops or the hoods- and if you don't have brakes, pista bars wouldn't be much of a choice for a tourer either...
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i've had no problem doing 3hrs+ on moustache bars with no (significant) breaks. they're nice. nicer if you have brake levers. best when they're really high up. higher than seat level, which puts them in the "fashion faux-pas" zone for most fixed riders.
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Old 08-11-05, 08:51 AM   #11
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Another vote for mustache bars. I haven't ridden them exclusively but had a loaner SS a few years ago with mustache bars set up. I did a 50 mile ride on that ride and it was great. Multitude of hand positions, comfy, just cruisin' along.

A few touring/randonneuring type riders I know (100+) swear by them. They fit the Rivendell aesthetic and style.
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Old 08-11-05, 11:39 AM   #12
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I switched over to mustaches from drop bars and have never looked back. It's possible I had the wrong width drops, but I wasn't finding them all that comfortable either. You know, conditioning plays a part with our hands, just as it does with our butts. You have to work up to longer distances. If you're not used to riding for a while, your hands will begin hurting no matter what kind of bar you use. Here's a pic of the MTB diameter mustache style bars I found in the parts bin at the LBS. Since they're MTB diameter, I was able to slip on some bar ends for an extra hand position. I have since covered everything with cruiser bar foam.

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I've used moustache bars exclusively and have found them to be very comfortable as long as you have the height set up properly. They also make climbing a breeze.
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How about this bar.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile_morei...ku=9756&brand=

or

http://www.rei.com/online/store/Prod...pg&view=large&
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Here's a pic of the MTB diameter mustache style bars I found in the parts bin at the LBS. Since they're MTB diameter, I was able to slip on some bar ends for an extra hand position.
I've been wanting to do this exact same setup on my m-bars on my commuter for the longest time but have been unsucessful in finding anything suitable to fit over the Nitto road diameter m-bars.
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i've got two bikes setup with m-bars.

the configuration is pretty much standard (no dummy levers, etc), except that i've got a pair of longish rubber grips on the ends. the rest is wrapped with tape in the normal manner.

i've ridden them on rides of up to 150 miles with no trouble. i do have to say, however, that they do seem to require more precise setup. in particular, if you get the angle or the reach wrong, they can be quite uncomfortable.
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I've seen fully loaded tourers using moustaches... also, I highly doubt many tourers spend much (if any) time riding in the drops when the have drop bars- most use either the tops or the hoods- and if you don't have brakes, pista bars wouldn't be much of a choice for a tourer either...
I think you're right. I've done some pretty extensive touring with drop bars and was seldom on the drops. Not that I didn't use them... I did. Just not nearly as frequently as the flats, hoods or upper drops.

PS - Is your avatar from T&C Surf Designs, Sloppy?
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I've been wanting to do this exact same setup on my m-bars on my commuter for the longest time but have been unsucessful in finding anything suitable to fit over the Nitto road diameter m-bars.
Yea, I got lucky when I found those bars in the parts bin for like $10... nice aluminum, light. But unfortunately, I don't know who made them or if they are still available. If I were you I'd be looking out for some old steel bar-ends that you should be able to pry open without breaking them. You can GENTLY pry open aluminum bar-ends to get onto road diameter bar, but they'll probably fail as you try to work them past the bends. But maybe with a bunch of grease or teflon spray...

I noticed you live near Dodger stadium. I grew up in Highland Park. The place sure has changed.

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PS - Is your avatar from T&C Surf Designs, Sloppy?

i dont think so ... unless he's drawing for them now. I think his name is andy davis and he has a company called freebyrd sanctuary...i think..this could all be off by a letter or name or so. i love his art though

heres the original: http://www.slabco.com/pblog/kg.jpg

thanks for all the bar tips...this is super helpful

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I noticed you live near Dodger stadium. I grew up in Highland Park. The place sure has changed....
.......for the better, I should add.....and many fixed geared riders in these parts..
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