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Old 08-11-05, 08:54 PM   #1
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Is 300mm too long?

Someone is selling an Abus 300mm U-lock on Ebay .

I was interested because Abus locks are pretty hard to find over here but I was wondering if 300mm is too long for just locking up a frame or frame/tire to a post? I know most people tend to carry mini u-locks around.

Any help would be most appreciated.
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that lock reminds me of the book Infinite Jest.

too long.
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That's what your girlfriend/wife said.
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Wow, thats crazy long.

I find my Kryptonite Kryptolok Standard too long (they sent that as my replacement lock, I used to have a Trek Mini)
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yes, she likened it to the book Infinite Jest. she's so literal/literary.
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that lock reminds me of the book Infinite Jest.

too long.
that is my favorite book of all time, i've read it three times and am about to start again.
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Old 08-11-05, 09:27 PM   #7
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that is my favorite book of all time, i've read it three times and am about to start again.

and yes, it's too long, imho
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it's long, but the kind of long where you never want it too end. But I think it wasn't the lock that reminded Mnsgr of Infinite Jest... it was the dreamy, cloudy blue background it's up against. Like the cover of the book.

So maybe he was just confused because those signals were getting crossed in his brain and but so the literal might have been literal but in regard to length, quite possibly not.

I'm gonna go play some Eschaton now...
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that book was great and funny and definitely written by a 28 year old genius without a sense of editing or a ballsy editor. lots of potential but essentially unfullfilling --very disappointing in that sense. vonnegut was the real genius in his era --spend a few years writing and even more years editing. he thought of the audience more than his writing.

that lock would get popped in 1 minute in NYC.
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that book was great and funny and definitely written by a 28 year old genius without a sense of editing or a ballsy editor. lots of potential but essentially unfullfilling --very disappointing in that sense. vonnegut was the real genius in his era --spend a few years writing and even more years editing. he thought of the audience more than his writing.

that lock would get popped in 1 minute in NYC.
but i think that's the beauty of the book; it's utterly out of control, (and his writing HAS tightened up), and to me it speaks well of his editor that s/he didn't try to cut it down. i mean, over 100 pages of 'notes and errata', not to mention footnotes that bled over to multiple pages, are ridiculous, not to mention 5 narrative lines that take forever to come together. but so is the whole novel.

/derail

yeah, skip that lock, get an on-guard or a kryptonite, all that 300mm shackle is is a long lever.
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300 mm might give a lot of space for leverage attempts, but they will remain exactly that: attempts.
That's a bulky Granite, and it locks both ends of the shackle.
If you want to be able to lock 2 frames to a pole and don't mind the hard-to-carry size and serious weight, it's a good buy, IMHO.
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I was interested because Abus locks are pretty hard to find over here but I was wondering if 300mm is too long for just locking up a frame or frame/tire to a post? I know most people tend to carry mini u-locks around.
Don't buy Abus just cause it's exotic in the US. Here in Europe they're the most popular brand but don't get fooled just cause it's European. Onguard or Kryptonite locks are better, preferably a mini lock cause then the theif will have less leverage to work with. This one was way too long.
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Don't buy Abus just cause it's exotic in the US. Here in Europe they're the most popular brand but don't get fooled just cause it's European. Onguard or Kryptonite locks are better, preferably a mini lock cause then the theif will have less leverage to work with. This one was way too long.
Folks always lust over what they can't have. Sophia Loren. Abus locks. But, the SoldSecure ratings list plenty of models from Kryptonite and OnGuard with "Gold" ratings in the heavy weight category, and with "Silver" ratings for some of the lighter weight models.

Abus locks that have "Gold" ratings tend to be priced considerably higher than the Kryptonite and OnGuard models with "gold" ratings. In the UK, OnGuard's cheaper "brother", Magnum, has models with Abus level security at about half the Abus price.
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