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Old 09-02-05, 10:16 AM   #1
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For You Carbon Fetishists

I'm not that big a fan of carbon as a frame material in general nor am I a fan of Giant in particular, but found this interesting:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...-giant_track-a

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...-giant_track-b

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/20...-giant_track-c
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Old 09-02-05, 10:43 AM   #2
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****, I hear my wallet calling. And I thought the aluminum TCR Track was cool. You know when Giant throws down carbon, it's gonna be sweet...
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Old 09-02-05, 11:01 AM   #3
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Super sexy. Seatpost seems to be integrated into the frame. Gotta love those. At leat I wouldn't have to lend it to people: "sorry, your legs won't reach the pedals".

BTW, 6,8 kg limitseems to be silly for trackracing. This beast could easily be under 6,8
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Do the chrome-looking track drops look a little out of place on that bike?
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Old 09-02-05, 11:48 AM   #5
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Super sexy. Seatpost seems to be integrated into the frame. Gotta love those. At leat I wouldn't have to lend it to people: "sorry, your legs won't reach the pedals".
That's one of the great features of my frame.

"Yea... sorry short person. I'd let you ride it but that just won't be possible. It's out of my hands."
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Old 09-02-05, 12:06 PM   #6
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Hahaha! Short People!
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In the immortal words of Keanu Reeves: whoa.

that thing is badass.
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Old 09-02-05, 12:36 PM   #8
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That's one of the great features of my frame.

I WANT PICS!!!


Edit: just looked at the Yama link in your signature. Looks way cool. It does have a seatpost of sorts, doesn't it? Tube goes up an then has a regular clamp, into which you insert a super-short seatpost, right?
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Old 09-02-05, 12:46 PM   #9
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Do the chrome-looking track drops look a little out of place on that bike?

The chrome drops are hot.
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Old 09-02-05, 12:58 PM   #10
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i think the ritchey stem looks the most out of place for some reason. it's the only part that isn't glossy.
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Old 09-02-05, 02:04 PM   #11
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You can always drop a chain down the top tube to make it heavier. Uh, wait, no you can't.
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Old 09-02-05, 02:42 PM   #12
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6.8 (~15lbs) is really not very impressive for a full carbon track setup. i think i've seen steel frames built to around that..
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6.8 (~15lbs) is really not very impressive for a full carbon track setup. i think i've seen steel frames built to around that..
6.8kg is the UCI minimum weight limit...
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Old 09-02-05, 03:26 PM   #14
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6.8kg is the UCI minimum weight limit...
I bet thats one of the reasons for metal bars and the aluminum stem, to keep it just above that limit
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Old 09-02-05, 03:29 PM   #15
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I kind of dig the Look 496 Athènes - it seems like every team (except for the Malaysian team, I think) had one at the Worlds in LA. I would link to their page on the frame, but their stupid site frames (html, not bike) prevent me from doing so.
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Old 09-02-05, 03:43 PM   #17
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When roadies add ballast to their bikes its usually placed low on the frame. Seems like steel bars and stem would put the weight in a weird place.
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I like... wallet hates.
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I honestly think that is one of the most beautiful things i've ever seen. I could stare at it for hours
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aaaagh flatten out that top tube
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When roadies add ballast to their bikes its usually placed low on the frame. Seems like steel bars and stem would put the weight in a weird place.
I presume that trackies use those beefy, heavy bars, because

1. if they used light bars, they would have to put the same weight back in somewhere to stay above limit

2. The greater stiffness improves out-of-saddle acceleration a tiny bit, so why not put the weight where it helps a bit?

They will still go a long way to shave off a few grams from the wheels which can go over into a stiffer frame, crank or bars, because lighter wheels accelerate better. It's like Formula 1: they build a 540 kg car, then put 60 kilos back in where it hurts the least: the bottom of the car so it rolls less in corners.
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Edit: just looked at the Yama link in your signature. Looks way cool. It does have a seatpost of sorts, doesn't it? Tube goes up an then has a regular clamp, into which you insert a super-short seatpost, right?
Yep; an American Classic chopped to four inches.
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Holy Crap that thing looks EXPENSIVE!!!! That's a freaking sweet track bike though
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lol, 'ballast'--that's what they call it
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