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    I asked about this and didn't get a response in the Antitheft thread below...



    Can these locking skewers be slid into my IRO hubs? I am always really paranoid about my wheels being stolen even though I run a U-lock through the front currently. I know I can get a chain or cable to go with it but these would be great if they worked. Cheers.

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    I would imagine that a U-lock thru the wheel would be better than those...

    I can't comment on how those work though. I was just saying...

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    These just seem like they could be a little bit easier. But I am not trying to shortcut on security.

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    i use the kryptonite locking skewers on my front wheel no matter what bike i am using, and both front and rear on the road bike. i feel very safe with it. you can't use them on a fixie rear.

    where did you find these? i could not find them on the onguard site.

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    They are at REI. I guess they are a no go on my hubs then. Oh well, I guess it's continued U-lock use for me.

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    You can if you have Phil Woods. Phil's with the quick release conversion kit (locking skewers are meant for quick release hollow axles) allow the use of these. unaesthetic uses this set-up successfully.

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    Just great. As if I needed anymore reason to get those black phil's that I really REALLY want!

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    No, not without modification. You'd have to replace the IRO's solid axles with hollow ones.

    here's a thread on IRO Maintaince: IRO Hub Maintenance

    here's a place to buy hollow axles:
    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/hub-parts.html

    alternately, you could try to get some pitlock locking track nuts. Only avalible in europe though.

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    wait a tic.

    you still can't use these for the rear hub because you can't get enough torque when tightening them.

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    Pitlock skewers will work on just about any hub. The rub is that you have to order them from Germany. I ordered a set, which was sent to me in Latvia. They were promt with the shippment. No problems at all. Jutta at Pitlock speaks English.

    http://www.pitlock.de/en/

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    You'd really only need locking skewers on the front. Lock the back wheel through the rear triangle with a U-lock and you're set--no way it's coming off. Should be great unless someone decides to take the whole fork.

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    i don't understand how these work. would someone please explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
    i don't understand how these work. would someone please explain?
    They are simmilar to regular skewers with a nut except you need a special keyed tool to turn the nut. Without the keyed tool you can't remove the wheel.

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    ok i see. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Msngr
    wait a tic.

    you still can't use these for the rear hub because you can't get enough torque when tightening them.
    You could run a rear chain tug, so the wheel won't slip.

    But seriously, a mini ulock and a cable is pretty secure. There's really no reason to be paranoid about someone strealing your wheels. It's unlikely in most locations. I do understand that in NYC and SF it may be a different game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manboy
    Should be great unless someone decides to take the whole fork.
    pit-lock also has a system for (threadless) forks.

    http://www.pitlock.de/en/kategorie2/...50d/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennethalan
    They are at REI. I guess they are a no go on my hubs then. Oh well, I guess it's continued U-lock use for me.
    Maybe Veratomic Quick-Locks would work for you.

    How are Veratomic Quick-Locks? (Locking quick-release skewers)

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    Those skewers are ****. Save your money and time.
    THE DEVIL

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    If that was my house and you put your stupid bike in my flower garden to take a picture, I would come outside in my underwear and light you on fire.

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    My rationale is that my LBS tried to sell those exact skewers to many folks, who all came back with the same assessment, they did not survive. Quite simple, they broke, alla they were crap. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
    THE DEVIL

    Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
    If that was my house and you put your stupid bike in my flower garden to take a picture, I would come outside in my underwear and light you on fire.

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    the veratomic quick locks are pretty much garbage. I rocked them for about six months before the lock part of the quick release sheared off from lever part as I tightened it. Do a google search and you'll find its a common problem. But the really dumb part came a few months later when I finally caught another flat on the front wheel. The lock bit was still stuck in the skewer and I couldn't remove it, their customer service was real nice and offered a replacement, but no help with removal. Broke out the standard adjustable wrench, the damn thing came off EASIER then then a track nut. Tightened the wrench, gentle tug and "lock" was off. The _only_ benefit of these things is psychological, it looks like it might be hard to get off. I guess the fact that the removable quick release is smaller then a wrench (but not an allen key) is a bit of a benefit too, but really these things don't do what they advertise.

    And no I didn't bother with their offer of a replacement.

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    Veratomic. Check.
    THE DEVIL

    Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
    If that was my house and you put your stupid bike in my flower garden to take a picture, I would come outside in my underwear and light you on fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Msngr
    where did you find these? i could not find them on the onguard site.
    I noticed the OnGaurd version of locking skewers at the LBS this week. I thought I made a mistake when I couldn't find the product on OnGuard's website. Then I saw them again at REI. And REI does have them listed on their website:

    http://www.rei.com/product/47984316.htm

    Does anyone have any experience with these OnGaurd locking skewers?


    Quote Originally Posted by kennethalan
    They are at REI. I guess they are a no go on my hubs then. Oh well, I guess it's continued U-lock use for me.
    How come you are giving up on them? What turned you off?

    I like that the Veratomic version comes with three keys. OnGaurd only gives you one. Granted you can mail them for more, but I'd rather the package just come with one for safekeeping at home while another goes out with me on the road.

    In defense of OnGaurd's version ... OnGaurd is a more trusted brand. Seems they make a good product for the most part. And their skewers are stocked by stores I trust. Veratomic on the other hand, I've never heard of. And it seems no store stocks their skewers. If you want them, you have to buy them off their website.

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    I gave up because it sounded like it might be a pain in the ass to slide those into my IRO hubs. Plus they are around $50.

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    Pitlock Skewers in Canada and the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    Pitlock skewers will work on just about any hub. The rub is that you have to order them from Germany. I ordered a set, which was sent to me in Latvia. They were promt with the shippment. No problems at all. Jutta at Pitlock speaks English.

    http://www.pitlock.de/en/
    I've just been authorized to distribute pitlock skewers. See my profile URL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanbiketech
    I've just been authorized to distribute pitlock skewers. See my profile URL.
    Can you get the twin packs? i.e. two sets, keyed the same? This locking system seems less prone to wear than the OnGuard style, but I'd like to have one key for both my bikes' wheels.

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