Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-15-05, 09:32 PM   #1
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Strawberry cycles

http://www.strawberrybicycle.com/

anyone got experience with this guy?

how did his measuring system work out for you?

I love the lugs...
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-05, 09:57 PM   #2
zerobug
not so much.
 
zerobug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: salem, OR
Bikes: EAI Bare Knuckle track, Gianni Motta track, Lemond road bike, Nishiki road fixed conversion, piles of parts.
Posts: 314
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've seen a few on the streets of Portland, haven't gotten the chance to talk to any owners. His frames look beautiful but his proprietary seat lugs are a little funky.

I think he's probably just overshadowed by that other frame builder in PDX... (well there are lots but you know... that guy.)
zerobug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-05, 10:00 PM   #3
pwarre20
Senior Member
 
pwarre20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Bikes:
Posts: 181
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
those are some pretty cool lugs...

(thats all I know)
pwarre20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-05, 06:35 AM   #4
Aeroplane
jack of one or two trades
 
Aeroplane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Posts: 5,637
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If only there were a Chocolate custom bicycle builder in Portland. Then it would be the Neopolitan bicycle city. HA HA HAHAHA!
Aeroplane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-05, 08:06 AM   #5
lunacycle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: St Paul, MN
Bikes:
Posts: 698
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeroplane
If only there were a Chocolate custom bicycle builder in Portland. Then it would be the Neopolitan bicycle city. HA HA HAHAHA!
Damn, I was going to say that.
lunacycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-05, 08:47 AM   #6
queerpunk
aka mattio
 
queerpunk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 6,020
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by zerobug
I've seen a few on the streets of Portland, haven't gotten the chance to talk to any owners. His frames look beautiful but his proprietary seat lugs are a little funky.

I think he's probably just overshadowed by that other frame builder in PDX... (well there are lots but you know... that guy.)
with a lug like that, who needs a seatpost or saddle?
queerpunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-05, 03:55 PM   #7
thesixsins
riding on the storm
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: portland oregon
Bikes: 1980's Olympic Cinelli Pista - red
Posts: 47
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
A buddy of mine just put together a nice Strawberry to go with his strawberry red hair! haha!
thesixsins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-05, 04:39 PM   #8
arcellus
Senior Member
 
arcellus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: pdx
Bikes:
Posts: 379
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by thesixsins
A buddy of mine just put together a nice Strawberry to go with his strawberry red hair! haha!
next.
arcellus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-05, 05:10 PM   #9
dolface
Iguana Subsystem
 
dolface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: san francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 4,016
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walkercycles
(out of retirement again...)

Andy Newlands is a framebuilding visionary. He has been building longer than "that guy" has been alive. He is a great guy and a great builder! His seat post binder system rocks! Truly a master!

DW
i need to quit lurking!
didn't legnano (or someone) have a similar setup back in the day?

(welcome back don, nice to see you haven't given up on us completely )
dolface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 12:22 AM   #10
Robbykills
Hi. I'm in Delaware.
 
Robbykills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Newark, Delaware
Bikes: 1985 Schwinn Voyageur, 1991 Miyata 700GT, LMNO custom track (www.lmnocycles.com), 1991 Tommasini road, 1999 Gary Fisher Mt. Tam SS, Dirt Research Kobuck, 1996 Diamondback Outlook (s***kicker)
Posts: 519
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I saw a really cool silver Strawberry track bike on the streets of Philly, it was locked up at Plan-It-X fest, it had 650c wheels. If you post on this forum, nice bike.
Robbykills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 09:48 AM   #11
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think that might have been the girl who told me about them, if so she's from portland
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 03:09 PM   #12
Serpico
Banned.
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 7,460
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
unimpressed, like the graphics/decals but not much else

seems like the guy is really into "different" stuff, which--uhh, if there's no point to it, is lame

innovation is cool, but doing weird ***** for no reason is wack

seat binder=umm, wtf? why? if this were an ideal place for the binder, how come no one else has "figured it out". looks inelegant the way the binder sits surrounded by the spiderweb lug

those lugs=yuck, can someone explain how there is ANY point to these

integrated headsets=double yuck, especially on a steel lugged frame

wishbone seatstay made worse=umm, this guy finds a way to make wishbone stays even worse, another pointless mod for no reason

those lugs=ugh again

sorry, not into the "look at me, I'm different" crowd--maybe he should name his company "Burning Man bike frames"--he'd be an instant hit with the attention seekers... "Wow man, that's like--totally far out the way you have basically reinvented everything in a different, yet WORSE, way--I'll take two."
Serpico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 05:07 PM   #13
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 05:16 PM   #14
curlybro
lives in a giant shoe
 
curlybro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: st paul, mn
Bikes:
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
Stole the words right from my voice box.
curlybro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 07:27 PM   #15
Serpico
Banned.
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 7,460
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
lol, I actually said what you're asking---what are the reasons behind any of the "different" stuff on those frames. So you would have to ask the guy who made them.

Just "wanna be different" seems the reason.

lugs=worse, integrated headset, seat collar=wtf, wishbone=worse

I would suggest coloring hair either green or fuschia, make a statement that way

artisanry is part engineering/design ...not so good to be making a statement or "different"

luckily people who design seatbelts and suspension bridges aren't trying to be punk rock with their *****

design is different than art, sorry

punk rock is very good for music or art on wall, but not so good for making ladders, or ***** that is critical

just seems like form went WAY past function, same thing with those weird looking llewelyn frames
Serpico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 07:38 PM   #16
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
ok, enough of your "Punk is dumb blah blah blah" explanation. With an actual reason, WHY are lugs bad, WHY are integrated headsets bad, WHY is his seat collar bad, WHY is the wish bone bad? Actual reasons please, like "laterral stresses will twist brazes causing failure" something like that, something other than "It looks weird so it must be bad!"

oh and for ladders? they used to be all wood, now we have fiberglass with aluminum rungs. cars used to not have seatbelts, now we have five point harnesses. bridges used to be crude at best, now there are BEAUTIFUL bridges everywhere that withstand most forces of nature. man I'm glad none of the people who design those things ever got to creative...
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 08:19 PM   #17
waltergodefroot
Retired Pro Rider/DS
 
waltergodefroot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: second guessing Olaf and Rudy
Bikes:
Posts: 437
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
You really kinda have to ignore ziggurat. he came on this forum a little less than a year ago and announced that he had just bought his first road bike. Now he's buying a Serotta and he feels the need to put down other frame builders to rationalize his own purchase.

If he knew anything about the bike business, he would know that Andy Newlands, Strawberry Cycles, has been building frames with his own unigue signature design features for close to thirty years and is one of the most respected frame builders in the USA. He does not do what he does to be different; he is a trend setter in frame building and design and an importer of equipment and supplies to the frame building industry.

Back to your cubicle, zig.
waltergodefroot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 09:04 PM   #18
sloppy robot
like, really sloppy
 
sloppy robot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: calipornia
Bikes:
Posts: 2,285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
im with zig... and he has a right to this opinion.. cause everything he is slamming has been done for style.. and what hes saying is.. "the style is wack".. and hes totally right.. ornate lugs remind me of those weird rings goth dudes wear on every finger.. the dudes who think they are anton levay...

and wishbonne stays are just ugly...and seem to serve not much purpose..

if he was slamming practicality.. itd be one thing.. but he's dissing the style choices...and stylistically.. that integrated headset/lugged tubes in the center thing is just all wrong.. that bike is just trying too hard..

so Dustin to answer your why why why... its because its all unessecery and so if its not there for a reason.. it must be there because it looks good... and it fails at that too...
sloppy robot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-05, 10:07 PM   #19
Serpico
Banned.
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 7,460
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
walter is just mad because he showed up around TDF this year and was summararily dismissed as a troll when he started posting in the TDF forum

as for "old school" street credibility, whatever--he's right, although I've ridden bikes all my life I hadn't worn lycra until a year ago, not too ashamed of that

he's obviously quite interested in me though--having gone through my entire posting history

as for how long this guy has been making frames--couldn't care less

walter is completely off topic, as usual--just personally attacking people
Serpico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-05, 01:04 AM   #20
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
so because something has a look that is purely ornate, it is inharently bad? welcome to 1984, knock knockin at your front door.......

hope none of you have tattoo's.

I'm fine with opinions, but when it comes to bashing without facts, well that's just plain whack.
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-05, 04:11 AM   #21
sloppy robot
like, really sloppy
 
sloppy robot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: calipornia
Bikes:
Posts: 2,285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
so because something has a look that is purely ornate, it is inharently bad? welcome to 1984, knock knockin at your front door.......

hope none of you have tattoo's.

I'm fine with opinions, but when it comes to bashing without facts, well that's just plain whack.
i give up... you just dont listen... if you really think thats what we are saying, great... enjoy your strawberry
sloppy robot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-05, 09:58 AM   #22
pgoat
BatŁwŁ Griekgriek
 
pgoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NYC - for the moment...
Bikes: 1985 Trek 500, 1986 Trek 500 Tri Series, 2002 Orbea Team Euskaltel, 2005 Cannondale R1000
Posts: 2,899
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
well, the colors are pretty, anyway. It kinda reminds me of looking at a Rivendell, not to compare this guy (who I am not familiar with) to Grant Peterson.

does anyone own one who can speak on the ride?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
People whose sig line does not include a jsharr quote annoy me.
pgoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-05, 10:18 AM   #23
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by sloppy robot
i give up... you just dont listen... if you really think thats what we are saying, great... enjoy your strawberry
no, I listen, you two just don't provide facts as to why this is a bad frame. I'm asking about whether or not there are any issues with the bike, like the brazes fail, the tubing is weak, something like that. But, the only reasons to not buy this bike that you are providing are, "It's different," "It's unnecesary," "It's ugly." I don't care about your tastes in the bike, I don't care what anyone things about it's lugs, it's seat post binder (by the way, not all the frames come that way, it's just an option), it's rear wishbone. What I do care about is how the entire frame as a whole holds up.

sorry that we don't have the same taste in girls.
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-05, 10:30 AM   #24
psn
Physics Junkie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cambridge, MA
Bikes: Surly Steamroller, GT Pulse, Specialized S-Works E5
Posts: 318
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm just curious where you guys are even seeing all these pictures of the bikes...I looked on the "factory tour" photo album and the only bikes I saw there had standard, i.e. not integrated, headsets and lugs that seemed to be pretty modest, nothing insanely ornate.

Anyway, those bikes looked just fine (to me). They're not really my cup of tea because I'm not a lug guy (witness the (Welded) Steel Shoot-Out thread), but that's just a style thing.

Technically, the rear wishbone design is potentially weaker than the standard two seat stays + a bridge design (as triangles generally make a structure more rigid), but if the builder designed it properly, it shouldn't be an issue. I don't see anything with the materials that would make the bike weaker. If you like it, dustin, just buy one.

As for style issues - I, for one, like the way GT's triple triangle looks. Does that make me a weirdo? Maybe. It might have some technical advantages (additional rigidity in the seat stays), but I primarily like it because it's *different* and catches my eye in a way that other frames don't (which is why I'm pursuing this one on eBay). To each, his/her own.
psn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-05, 10:35 AM   #25
dustinlikewhat
Bow$$
Thread Starter
 
dustinlikewhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
Bikes: Surly Instigator '02, Schwinn Traveler fixed conversion, '02 Fuji Track
Posts: 2,013
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
right on, a logic based response!

I have an old GT Pro Series BMX that I used to race, it looks like their track bikes except it's chrome. I always loved that look.

enough of the interwebz, it's band practice time.
dustinlikewhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:23 PM.