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    Strawberry cycles

    http://www.strawberrybicycle.com/

    anyone got experience with this guy?

    how did his measuring system work out for you?

    I love the lugs...

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    I've seen a few on the streets of Portland, haven't gotten the chance to talk to any owners. His frames look beautiful but his proprietary seat lugs are a little funky.

    I think he's probably just overshadowed by that other frame builder in PDX... (well there are lots but you know... that guy.)

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    those are some pretty cool lugs...

    (thats all I know)

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    If only there were a Chocolate custom bicycle builder in Portland. Then it would be the Neopolitan bicycle city. HA HA HAHAHA!
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    Men should never ride bicycles. Riding should be banned and outlawed. It is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeroplane
    If only there were a Chocolate custom bicycle builder in Portland. Then it would be the Neopolitan bicycle city. HA HA HAHAHA!
    Damn, I was going to say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerobug
    I've seen a few on the streets of Portland, haven't gotten the chance to talk to any owners. His frames look beautiful but his proprietary seat lugs are a little funky.

    I think he's probably just overshadowed by that other frame builder in PDX... (well there are lots but you know... that guy.)
    with a lug like that, who needs a seatpost or saddle?
    the hipster myth.

    i practice vagabondery.

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    A buddy of mine just put together a nice Strawberry to go with his strawberry red hair! haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesixsins
    A buddy of mine just put together a nice Strawberry to go with his strawberry red hair! haha!
    next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkercycles
    (out of retirement again...)

    Andy Newlands is a framebuilding visionary. He has been building longer than "that guy" has been alive. He is a great guy and a great builder! His seat post binder system rocks! Truly a master!

    DW
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    didn't legnano (or someone) have a similar setup back in the day?

    (welcome back don, nice to see you haven't given up on us completely )

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    I saw a really cool silver Strawberry track bike on the streets of Philly, it was locked up at Plan-It-X fest, it had 650c wheels. If you post on this forum, nice bike.

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    I think that might have been the girl who told me about them, if so she's from portland

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    unimpressed, like the graphics/decals but not much else

    seems like the guy is really into "different" stuff, which--uhh, if there's no point to it, is lame

    innovation is cool, but doing weird ***** for no reason is wack

    seat binder=umm, wtf? why? if this were an ideal place for the binder, how come no one else has "figured it out". looks inelegant the way the binder sits surrounded by the spiderweb lug

    those lugs=yuck, can someone explain how there is ANY point to these

    integrated headsets=double yuck, especially on a steel lugged frame

    wishbone seatstay made worse=umm, this guy finds a way to make wishbone stays even worse, another pointless mod for no reason

    those lugs=ugh again

    sorry, not into the "look at me, I'm different" crowd--maybe he should name his company "Burning Man bike frames"--he'd be an instant hit with the attention seekers... "Wow man, that's like--totally far out the way you have basically reinvented everything in a different, yet WORSE, way--I'll take two."

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    and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
    and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
    Stole the words right from my voice box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
    and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
    lol, I actually said what you're asking---what are the reasons behind any of the "different" stuff on those frames. So you would have to ask the guy who made them.

    Just "wanna be different" seems the reason.

    lugs=worse, integrated headset, seat collar=wtf, wishbone=worse

    I would suggest coloring hair either green or fuschia, make a statement that way

    artisanry is part engineering/design ...not so good to be making a statement or "different"

    luckily people who design seatbelts and suspension bridges aren't trying to be punk rock with their *****

    design is different than art, sorry

    punk rock is very good for music or art on wall, but not so good for making ladders, or ***** that is critical

    just seems like form went WAY past function, same thing with those weird looking llewelyn frames

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    ok, enough of your "Punk is dumb blah blah blah" explanation. With an actual reason, WHY are lugs bad, WHY are integrated headsets bad, WHY is his seat collar bad, WHY is the wish bone bad? Actual reasons please, like "laterral stresses will twist brazes causing failure" something like that, something other than "It looks weird so it must be bad!"

    oh and for ladders? they used to be all wood, now we have fiberglass with aluminum rungs. cars used to not have seatbelts, now we have five point harnesses. bridges used to be crude at best, now there are BEAUTIFUL bridges everywhere that withstand most forces of nature. man I'm glad none of the people who design those things ever got to creative...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
    and your logic behind your slam is....? (other than being a stick in the mud) that's fine that you don't like it, but can you make any points other than, "It looks different, so I don't like it!"?
    You really kinda have to ignore ziggurat. he came on this forum a little less than a year ago and announced that he had just bought his first road bike. Now he's buying a Serotta and he feels the need to put down other frame builders to rationalize his own purchase.

    If he knew anything about the bike business, he would know that Andy Newlands, Strawberry Cycles, has been building frames with his own unigue signature design features for close to thirty years and is one of the most respected frame builders in the USA. He does not do what he does to be different; he is a trend setter in frame building and design and an importer of equipment and supplies to the frame building industry.

    Back to your cubicle, zig.

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    im with zig... and he has a right to this opinion.. cause everything he is slamming has been done for style.. and what hes saying is.. "the style is wack".. and hes totally right.. ornate lugs remind me of those weird rings goth dudes wear on every finger.. the dudes who think they are anton levay...

    and wishbonne stays are just ugly...and seem to serve not much purpose..

    if he was slamming practicality.. itd be one thing.. but he's dissing the style choices...and stylistically.. that integrated headset/lugged tubes in the center thing is just all wrong.. that bike is just trying too hard..

    so Dustin to answer your why why why... its because its all unessecery and so if its not there for a reason.. it must be there because it looks good... and it fails at that too...

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    walter is just mad because he showed up around TDF this year and was summararily dismissed as a troll when he started posting in the TDF forum

    as for "old school" street credibility, whatever--he's right, although I've ridden bikes all my life I hadn't worn lycra until a year ago, not too ashamed of that

    he's obviously quite interested in me though--having gone through my entire posting history

    as for how long this guy has been making frames--couldn't care less

    walter is completely off topic, as usual--just personally attacking people

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    so because something has a look that is purely ornate, it is inharently bad? welcome to 1984, knock knockin at your front door.......

    hope none of you have tattoo's.

    I'm fine with opinions, but when it comes to bashing without facts, well that's just plain whack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dustinlikewhat
    so because something has a look that is purely ornate, it is inharently bad? welcome to 1984, knock knockin at your front door.......

    hope none of you have tattoo's.

    I'm fine with opinions, but when it comes to bashing without facts, well that's just plain whack.
    i give up... you just dont listen... if you really think thats what we are saying, great... enjoy your strawberry

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    well, the colors are pretty, anyway. It kinda reminds me of looking at a Rivendell, not to compare this guy (who I am not familiar with) to Grant Peterson.

    does anyone own one who can speak on the ride?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy robot
    i give up... you just dont listen... if you really think thats what we are saying, great... enjoy your strawberry
    no, I listen, you two just don't provide facts as to why this is a bad frame. I'm asking about whether or not there are any issues with the bike, like the brazes fail, the tubing is weak, something like that. But, the only reasons to not buy this bike that you are providing are, "It's different," "It's unnecesary," "It's ugly." I don't care about your tastes in the bike, I don't care what anyone things about it's lugs, it's seat post binder (by the way, not all the frames come that way, it's just an option), it's rear wishbone. What I do care about is how the entire frame as a whole holds up.

    sorry that we don't have the same taste in girls.

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    I'm just curious where you guys are even seeing all these pictures of the bikes...I looked on the "factory tour" photo album and the only bikes I saw there had standard, i.e. not integrated, headsets and lugs that seemed to be pretty modest, nothing insanely ornate.

    Anyway, those bikes looked just fine (to me). They're not really my cup of tea because I'm not a lug guy (witness the (Welded) Steel Shoot-Out thread), but that's just a style thing.

    Technically, the rear wishbone design is potentially weaker than the standard two seat stays + a bridge design (as triangles generally make a structure more rigid), but if the builder designed it properly, it shouldn't be an issue. I don't see anything with the materials that would make the bike weaker. If you like it, dustin, just buy one.

    As for style issues - I, for one, like the way GT's triple triangle looks. Does that make me a weirdo? Maybe. It might have some technical advantages (additional rigidity in the seat stays), but I primarily like it because it's *different* and catches my eye in a way that other frames don't (which is why I'm pursuing this one on eBay). To each, his/her own.

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    right on, a logic based response!

    I have an old GT Pro Series BMX that I used to race, it looks like their track bikes except it's chrome. I always loved that look.

    enough of the interwebz, it's band practice time.

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