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    "Real" vs. homemade SS

    I want a singlespeed really bad, a steel ss, but for some reason I've got it in my head if I make one that needs a tensioner I'll never really be satisfied. Like, after a couple months I'll want a "real" ss with track ends or something so bad it will drive me nuts. I keep dreaming about riding around on a ss and it never has a singulator.

    Is that stupid or has that happened to you? Is the experience on a "real" ss any different or better than a home built one?

    I know it's an essentially dumb question, but this is how I figure stuff out- by asking dumb questions. I've got a chance to buy a cool Bianchi lugged frame mountain bike but I'm wondering if I'd be better off just saving up for a monocog.

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    Are you looking for a mountain frame or a road frame? There is often a lot of used stuff out there. I'd say the feeling of making something yourself, in either case, is better than the feeling of riding a new bike. Knowing that you made something yourself (as long as it is safe) is probably going to give you more gratification than buying one.
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    Mountain bike, but with some slicks for commuting.

    Yeah, if I had a steel frame already it'd be a no-brainer, the problem is $$- I don't know where to spend my small amounts of dough. I figure whatever I come up with tha't gonna be it, I won't be able to afford to switch to something different for a long while.

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    I have always had a different mind set. I loved the look of the home built ones with tensioners. I am getting a monocog and I am sure I will love it but for some reason I love a tensioner on a bike. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimJ
    I want a singlespeed really bad, a steel ss, but for some reason I've got it in my head if I make one that needs a tensioner I'll never really be satisfied. Like, after a couple months I'll want a "real" ss with track ends or something so bad it will drive me nuts. I keep dreaming about riding around on a ss and it never has a singulator.

    Is that stupid or has that happened to you? Is the experience on a "real" ss any different or better than a home built one?

    I know it's an essentially dumb question, but this is how I figure stuff out- by asking dumb questions. I've got a chance to buy a cool Bianchi lugged frame mountain bike but I'm wondering if I'd be better off just saving up for a monocog.
    I think there's more than one answer.

    A good conversion bike will be a good rider.

    But a new bike will feed your ego.

    There's nothing wrong w/ getting what you want, as long as you don't hurt anyone along the way. In fact, I think it is essential to be good to yourself.

    Just as it is good to learn to do without, to be frugal.

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    Yes. Part of it is I haven't bought a new bike since 1987 - a Miyata Trailrunner that I wish I still had because it had a nice lugged steel frame and Suntour which I now miss. It'd be nice to smell that new bike smell. I should probably check out that Bianchi.

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    You could just try to get a perfect gear combination.

    Man, why can't you find MTB frames with horizontal dropouts?

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    Check with a local framebuilder about putting track dropouts on a mtn. bike with vertical dropouts. You can easily find an old steel mtn. bike frame with vertical dropouts without spending much.

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    Damn the snobs! There's no better feeling than knowing that you built the thing! Any hipster gives you grieve about riding a "conversion" can go pound sand.
    If you are not having any fun, it's all your fault

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    I'm being a bit picky about the sort of frame I'll buy. I've seen a few overpriced lower-end steel bikes with horizontal dropouts and u-brakes, but I'm not interested in trying to make a mediocre old frame off a Fuji Cadenza my new ride, you know? I'm checking every day though.

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    Don't overlook the White Industries hub for vertical dropouts. It's pricey, but will greatly increase the number of frames you have to choose from.

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    Oh yeah! the White Eno hub! that and half links should take care of all your chain tension issues with a vert drop out!
    If you are not having any fun, it's all your fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by manboy
    Man, why can't you find MTB frames with horizontal dropouts?
    2 reasons: Flats are way more common on MTBs (mad freeriding, etc.), so quick releases are a necessity.

    Most people mash a LOT offroad. Combine ridiculous torque with a QR and you get your wheel popping out of the dropout. Hence, vertical drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopncow
    Damn the snobs! There's no better feeling than knowing that you built the thing! Any hipster gives you grieve about riding a "conversion" can go pound sand.

    Aren't there snobs who would give you grief about buying one as well though?
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