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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 09-19-05, 04:45 PM   #1
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"Real" vs. homemade SS

I want a singlespeed really bad, a steel ss, but for some reason I've got it in my head if I make one that needs a tensioner I'll never really be satisfied. Like, after a couple months I'll want a "real" ss with track ends or something so bad it will drive me nuts. I keep dreaming about riding around on a ss and it never has a singulator.

Is that stupid or has that happened to you? Is the experience on a "real" ss any different or better than a home built one?

I know it's an essentially dumb question, but this is how I figure stuff out- by asking dumb questions. I've got a chance to buy a cool Bianchi lugged frame mountain bike but I'm wondering if I'd be better off just saving up for a monocog.
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Old 09-19-05, 04:49 PM   #2
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Are you looking for a mountain frame or a road frame? There is often a lot of used stuff out there. I'd say the feeling of making something yourself, in either case, is better than the feeling of riding a new bike. Knowing that you made something yourself (as long as it is safe) is probably going to give you more gratification than buying one.
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Old 09-19-05, 04:58 PM   #3
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Mountain bike, but with some slicks for commuting.

Yeah, if I had a steel frame already it'd be a no-brainer, the problem is $$- I don't know where to spend my small amounts of dough. I figure whatever I come up with tha't gonna be it, I won't be able to afford to switch to something different for a long while.
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I have always had a different mind set. I loved the look of the home built ones with tensioners. I am getting a monocog and I am sure I will love it but for some reason I love a tensioner on a bike. Good luck.
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Old 09-19-05, 08:00 PM   #5
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I want a singlespeed really bad, a steel ss, but for some reason I've got it in my head if I make one that needs a tensioner I'll never really be satisfied. Like, after a couple months I'll want a "real" ss with track ends or something so bad it will drive me nuts. I keep dreaming about riding around on a ss and it never has a singulator.

Is that stupid or has that happened to you? Is the experience on a "real" ss any different or better than a home built one?

I know it's an essentially dumb question, but this is how I figure stuff out- by asking dumb questions. I've got a chance to buy a cool Bianchi lugged frame mountain bike but I'm wondering if I'd be better off just saving up for a monocog.
I think there's more than one answer.

A good conversion bike will be a good rider.

But a new bike will feed your ego.

There's nothing wrong w/ getting what you want, as long as you don't hurt anyone along the way. In fact, I think it is essential to be good to yourself.

Just as it is good to learn to do without, to be frugal.
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Old 09-19-05, 08:22 PM   #6
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Yes. Part of it is I haven't bought a new bike since 1987 - a Miyata Trailrunner that I wish I still had because it had a nice lugged steel frame and Suntour which I now miss. It'd be nice to smell that new bike smell. I should probably check out that Bianchi.
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Old 09-19-05, 08:57 PM   #7
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You could just try to get a perfect gear combination.

Man, why can't you find MTB frames with horizontal dropouts?
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Check with a local framebuilder about putting track dropouts on a mtn. bike with vertical dropouts. You can easily find an old steel mtn. bike frame with vertical dropouts without spending much.
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Damn the snobs! There's no better feeling than knowing that you built the thing! Any hipster gives you grieve about riding a "conversion" can go pound sand.
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I'm being a bit picky about the sort of frame I'll buy. I've seen a few overpriced lower-end steel bikes with horizontal dropouts and u-brakes, but I'm not interested in trying to make a mediocre old frame off a Fuji Cadenza my new ride, you know? I'm checking every day though.
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Don't overlook the White Industries hub for vertical dropouts. It's pricey, but will greatly increase the number of frames you have to choose from.
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Oh yeah! the White Eno hub! that and half links should take care of all your chain tension issues with a vert drop out!
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Man, why can't you find MTB frames with horizontal dropouts?
2 reasons: Flats are way more common on MTBs (mad freeriding, etc.), so quick releases are a necessity.

Most people mash a LOT offroad. Combine ridiculous torque with a QR and you get your wheel popping out of the dropout. Hence, vertical drops.
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Damn the snobs! There's no better feeling than knowing that you built the thing! Any hipster gives you grieve about riding a "conversion" can go pound sand.

Aren't there snobs who would give you grief about buying one as well though?
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