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Old 09-20-05, 08:54 PM   #1
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skidding problem?

is there any reason why i cant stop fishtailing on my skids? am i taking to much weight off my back wheel. it usually happens worse the faster im going which makes since but it is really rediculous. any tips?
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Old 09-20-05, 09:19 PM   #2
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i have a skidding problem too... I don't know how.
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Old 09-20-05, 09:21 PM   #3
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If anything I'd say you might be putting too much of the force on one pedal? (speculation) The idea being that maybe you're shifting more of your weight to one side, rather than keeping it more in the middle while pulling up on one side and pushing down on the other.
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Old 09-20-05, 09:43 PM   #4
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i have a skidding problem too... I don't know how.
be a lot easier when you get those pedals
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be a lot easier when you get those pedals
that might be what it is.
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i would agree with fugazi dave, if your locking your right leg and whatnot try countersteering and pulling up more with your left...
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I always fishtail slightly when I start out most of my long distance skids, but I usually straighten it out pretty quick. In reality when you innitiate the skid one leg will almost always pull harder than the other, the trick is to counter the fishtailing at the begining then it should be like sliding on glass and you can concentrate on getting your weight more and more over the front of the bike. You should never be flailing like a madman or else you're doing something else completely wrong or you have a bike with super weird geo. like mine.

I too have a skidding problem... I can't stop!
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well. i do lock my right leg and realized i barely pull up at all with my left. its almost all on my right leg. im gonna work on tryin to skid left leg locked. for now im just gonna try the counter-steer thing. much abliged guys/
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I was gonna reccomend better wiping, but then I realized that's not what this thread is about
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Old 09-21-05, 08:35 AM   #10
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there's something wrong with fishtailing while skidding? that's my favorite part! I love doing the "tail wag", personally.
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there's something wrong with fishtailing while skidding? that's my favorite part! I love doing the "tail wag", personally.
Agreed, that is always teh cool. Find some gravel and make pretty ribbons of skidmarks.
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Agreed, that is always teh cool. Find some gravel and make pretty ribbons of skidmarks.
i prefer wet grass. whoooooosh.
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180 degree fishtails are cool.
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Man, I can never fishtail. Maybe I'll try the oppisite of what Fugazi Dave said.
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Yeah, are you going for long or short distance skids? Fishtailing is useful in an emergency...
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Fishtailing can be fun and useful, but I'd say it's something to arrive at rather than start with.
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exactly. if its a controlled fishtail then woooot. but starting with it is ahhhhhhhhhhh
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yeah iv had some killer wipeouts when the tail got around too far. i was to drunk to correct it
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try this

try this, when you are about to skid pull your knees together a little like you trying to pinch the top tube with your knees, it centers your weight. there for creating complete control of the skid. it also makes it to where you dont have to lean as much of your weight forward =) . trust me. ive always ridden brakeless and i can stop quicker than someone with a front brake using my technique
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ive always ridden brakeless and i can stop quicker than someone with a front brake using my technique
Not unless you've rewritten physics you can't.

EDIT: I should clarify that I'm not saying your technique isn't good. It probably is. Thing is, something like 70% of braking power is in your front end. Longitudinal transfer and whatnot.
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why was this thread brought bike after 4 years
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Nice pun.
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=)

i was pretty much just saying that the technique is good, i know i cant stop as quick as a front brake (by an experienced rider anyway). ive seen so many kids go flying cause they dont know how to brake on a fixed gear. front brake=70% stopping power not 100%. some people just think have a front brake is as easy as a squeeze and some people find out its not the hard way
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Since this thread has been revived, can anyone give me some tips on how to fishtail? I can do long skids and almost a 180 skid, but I can't get the fishtail down when I ride normally. Any ideas?
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