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Old 09-25-05, 01:53 PM   #1
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Dura Ace hubs for fast wheels

Are the bearings in these hubs as great as I've been hearing? I've been thinking about building some new wheels, and at first I wanted sealed bearing, 36 hole, deep rims for strength's sake. But the more I think about it the more I want fast, smooth, relatively light go-fast wheels that I probably won't ride in bad weather and that I will expect to have to maintain a bit more. My thoughts now are along the lines of 28 hole dura ace laced to cxp33's. Also, relatedly, is there any grease you guys prefer for when you repack your hubs?
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i ride DA 28 high flange laced to sew-up rims that i use on the track. unfreaking beleivable. but. . .
not for the streets. don't do it. get something less delicate. just trust me on this one.
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Phil's grease for the repack
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i ride DA 28 high flange laced to sew-up rims that i use on the track. unfreaking beleivable. but. . .
not for the streets. don't do it. get something less delicate. just trust me on this one.
Is it the hubs themselves that are too delicate? Would more spokes and really sturdy rims make a difference?
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no. the hubs are gentle. forward motion only. the warranty is void if you use them on the street. they are made for the track. i know [165] just got the same hubs that i use, and i hope he is listening, in the internet sense.

do not be afraid of low spoke count if you are under 190 lbs. spokes suck!
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but I wanna be COOL...screw you and your sage advice...C-Record is a street no-no. Track bikes on the street is a no-no. Crack is a no-no. What next? Huh?

You know, I swear somedays Msngr you are just out to break my ****ing heart.
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I have the low flange 36 spoke variety and love them on the street. The bearings are unbelievable. If the front wheel is turning freely, it will ALWAYS stop with the valve stem right at the top perpendicular to the ground since that's the lightest part of the rim. Of course, it takes like an hour for the wheel to stop...
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yeah, yer starting to freak me out too. i just got a da 28 high flange for the front and a da 36 high flange for the rear...
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[165], i always assumed your new hubs were for the track. you really don't plan on riding them on the street, do you?

and, yes, you are too too cool just for having these things. k? like icewater or me five years ago. ok, not that cool. but close.
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just hold a set in your hands if you dont believe the delicate part.. they feel like paper
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Old 09-25-05, 05:42 PM   #11
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why not go italian? campy record pista
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I have the low flange 36 spoke variety and love them on the street. The bearings are unbelievable. If the front wheel is turning freely, it will ALWAYS stop with the valve stem right at the top perpendicular to the ground since that's the lightest part of the rim. Of course, it takes like an hour for the wheel to stop...

That's nut- I just spun one of my low-flange DA wheels and sure enough, the thing reversed it's self into a lazy pendulum until the valve stem was at the top of the rim. Never noticed that, but quite a testament to the hub. They really are smooth and fast. Still not sure about riding them in the rain
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just hold a set in your hands if you dont believe the delicate part.. they feel like paper
Light=weak, everyone knows that!

After all, that's why my 33lb trek was so much more durable than my 17lb pinarello.
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Light=weak, everyone knows that!

After all, that's why my 33lb trek was so much more durable than my 17lb pinarello.
yes.. thats what i was saying.. they feel brittle

i love my miche hubs.. think they look cool.. and the price is right..but ive said that a million times

edit: ..but the da's are super sexy.. i do love em....do people break them often? i havent heard of it
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I ride Some DA low-flange 36 hole hubs front and back on the street, and they seem pretty tough to me. I don't really have to worry about snow down hear though. They'll spin for days, I swear.
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i've been rocking D/A 32h high flange hubs on the street for 5 years and they've held up just fine. they're on my "weekends and when 165 is in town only" bike now, so they haven't gotten much use in the last year, but before that, they were on the street every day. in the snow, in the rain, in the salt and grit, and in fair weather. they're still gold.

and i disagree about phil's grease...for anything. it's good, but in my experience, it breaks down too fast, and it smells bad. i use the semi-clear triflow syn-grease, or the finish line stuff that's the same color and consistency. du monde tech is good stuff too, but it looks too much like caramel. if you want the hubs to feel as silky smooth as they were when you bought 'em, get the radioactive green colored, suuuuper thick shimano grease to pack those bearings...and get the grade 25 bearings, not the 3000 grade bearings that most shops carry in bulk.
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OneTinSloth - you got a link to the radioactive green grease and the better bearings? My rear was getting a little gritty and I repacked the bearings, with just some Park Polylube crap. I didn't know that you're supposed to keep the loose bearings from each side seperate instead of mixing them (a LBS wrench told me that after) and it hasn't really been the same since. Still really nice, but it could be better, and I'm going to want to fix them before winter hits.

And yeah, I'm going to ride them all winter I'll let everyone know how they hold up...
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http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx...ation&SortBy=3

it's a uk site, but i'm pretty sure that's the stuff.

nope, this is the stuff.

bearings.
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quick question about DA h/f hubs: which ones are njs certified, 36 or 32?
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Don't mean to hijack, but whats the opinion on DA vs C-record. Not that I can find any c records or afford them but how well does the record hf hold up on the streets?
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thank you! i'm preparing a set to sell and didn't want to misrepresent.
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I have a couple of sets of hf 32h c-records, and I also ride hf 32h d/a on the street. The problem, in my experience, has been the rim, not the hub. A strong rim 3x-laced to any hf hub is fine for me on the street.
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My rear was getting a little gritty and I repacked the bearings, with just some Park Polylube crap. I didn't know that you're supposed to keep the loose bearings from each side seperate instead of mixing them (a LBS wrench told me that after) and it hasn't really been the same since.
Repack = replacing the ball bearings and the grease.

Replacing the grease and using the same ****ty ball bearings isn't going to change much...
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quick question about DA h/f hubs: which ones are njs certified, 36 or 32?
The spoke count doesnt guarantee NJS cert. If your hubs have the NJS stamp theyre NJS. Thats all there is to it. If you were buying you might want to take a guess about it, but since you're selling, I think you should just check.
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