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Old 10-13-05, 08:00 AM   #1
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Rock And Roll Lube

anybody use this stuff? i've heard great things about it from a friend of mine i worked with over the summer.

the directions say, spray on while the chain is moving--it's a cleanser and a lube--then wipe as much off with a rag.

so i did that, soaked the chain pretty well, wiped it off. a LOT of black **** came off my chain, which is odd, cause i cleaned and Finish Line'd just a week ago.

now my chain makes crunchy, grindy noises.

what the ****?
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Old 10-13-05, 08:08 AM   #2
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I'm using rock'n'roll stringy grease and the red devil degreaser. The grease is great, the degreaser I'm sorta ambivalent about... I had a similar experience degreasing my chain, then using White Lightning on it and having the inky blacknuss start pouring off.
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yeah, the inky blackness was heavy, but so is this crunching in my drivetrain.

sounds like somebody poured a handful of sand into it.
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Old 10-13-05, 09:19 AM   #4
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yeah, the inky blackness was heavy, but so is this crunching in my drivetrain.

sounds like somebody poured a handful of sand into it.
Here's probably what's going on (based on experience): Even though you cleaned your chain, there was still lube and dirt embedded in it. When you sprayed the lube/cleanser on you got rid of the old lube and it left the dirt behind. Put the chain in an old water bottle filled with Simple Green or a similar cleaner and shake a lot, let sit overnight, shake a bunch more, then rinse clean and relube.
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yeah, I can never get my chain clean. I should try that method.
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I used Rock and Roll for over a year with great results. You really need to douse the chain get it sopping wet. Then I usually let it sit over night and wiped it off until the rag was showing only minimal black.
The problems with RR is that it wears off fairly quick (I only ever use the blue kind and that lasts about a week or two). The fact that you need to soak the chain with it means you need to use a lot every time, so you'll need a new bottle soon. The benefit is that your drivetrain is always very nice and clean, since it barely attracts dust.
About a month ago when complaining at my LBS about how the RR stuff is wearing off too quick they gave me a new lube called DuMond Tech. I have been using it since and it is great! You only need minimal amounts of the stuff and so far I have only needed one applictation. It is gets a little dirtier than the RR so make sure you wipe well after applying it (probably would not use it for dirt biking). It is definitely quieter than the RR and my drive train is buttery smooth. I know a month is too soon to tell but so far so good. Hope that helps
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Resurrecting this post.

My LBS uses this type lube. Have to call them to find out which specific type they used. I have typically used Pedro's Ice Wax and been happy. Tarmac listed below still being dialed in w/ help of LBS who helpfully cleaned my chain w/out my asking (free lifetime tuneups since bought there). He said he used Rock N Roll, but I'm not sure which version.

Went out on very rainy ride yesterday; much to my surprise, after the ride, the chain was cleaner than I imagined it would be, and still well lubed. This must nold up better in wet than Ice Wax.

Anybody else used Rock N Roll?

What lube do you like for wet conditions??
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Old 08-08-06, 02:12 PM   #8
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resurrecting this again. anyone know a good place to order RnR lube online? none of my LBSs carry it.
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biketoolsetc.com.

I've started using the Rock'n'Roll gold lube as well, and I'm quite happy with it. They make good stuff.
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I prefer prolink. I've found that it lasts longer, particularly in wet conditions.
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+1 on the Prolink. I've tried a ton of other lubes and nothing even comes close.
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+1 on the Prolink. I've tried a ton of other lubes and nothing even comes close.
my sentiments exactly. i've tried:

rock & roll gold
purple extreme
pedro's ice wax, extra dry, and road rage
white lightning
finish line cross country

the absolute worst was ice wax. i'm not sure if i'm going to switch to finish line cross country again this winter - it is an awesome, albeit messy, cold weather lube.
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Old 08-08-06, 05:21 PM   #13
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i wish they would make some kind of chain cleaning machine for single speed bikes wouldent that be great all my bikes with gears have nice clean chains my outhers not so much some one should invent one ill buy it
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i was able to use my parktool chain cleaner on my fixie...
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Old 08-08-06, 07:54 PM   #15
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Plus aliens on the prolink suggestion. It's not too thick or too runny, and a few pedal rotations gets the whole chain damp enough to rub off all of the residue and still leave some for protection.
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