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Old 10-17-05, 06:59 AM   #1
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neck problems

steal frame aluminum neck still stuck in there i need to get it out tried ammonia,wd40,soaking it in oil over a few days and banged it with 2x4 and hammer and just a hammer i was pissed need help or its to the lbs i go (waste of money) or shall i say stem
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Old 10-17-05, 07:07 AM   #2
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yeah, the aluminum stem has chemical bonded to the steel of the fork. i had this problem with a seat post once. i just took a blow torch to the seat tube and the steel expanded enough to get the post out. the problem you have is the head tube keeps you from heating the fork. oil will do nothing. ammonia could, sometimes. you could also try hitting it from the bottom with steel rod or pipe that fits in the fork shaft …otherwise, lbs, but it might be hopeless. just remeber to clean and grease alu/steel contact point which are likely to corrode.
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Old 10-17-05, 07:12 AM   #3
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yeah tried that and nothing moves that **** is in there tight thanks
only thing i didnt try was heat dont want to screw up the paint guess heat is my last option before lbs
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but that is the problem with heat in your situation …the head tube will insulate the fork shaft from the heat and you won't be able to heat it enough. maybe if you tried heat it from the bottom/inside of the fork shaft with a small torch tip that could get in there. it seems like it might work …or maybe wait until some others post more tips, its still early.
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Heat's a bad idea. Aluminum expands and contracts more quickly than steel. Cold might be good, but really the ammonia and penetrating oil should do it.

I assume you've completely removed the bolt at this point, yes? It's possible that the expander wedge is simply stuck. If you haven't taken the bolt out all the way yet, do that. Then see if you can get the stem free. You might try tapping it with a punch from the underside of the fork crown, but that will drive the wedge further up and make the problem worse if it's that the wedge is stuck.

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yeah the wedge is stuck the neck doesnt move side to side
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Old 10-17-05, 08:28 AM   #8
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damn today is monday lbs closed damn allways tommorow
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Old 10-17-05, 08:32 AM   #9
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got to a good auto parts store and buy a can of "PB Blaster" this is the most incredible penetrating lubricant known to man, I use it on 40+ year old Land Rovers to move recalcitrant fasteners and it works almost every time. I usually apply lots o heat too but it is not always necessary, and often you can't use heat anyway, as in your case.

remove bolt
spray in a ****load of pb blaster

screw bolt in until it is protruding by 1/2 " or so, make sure the threads are pretty well engaged in the wedge

pound on the bolt until it is flush with the top of the stem. the wedge should now be loose.

add more pb blaster and work the stem side to side. don't break the handlbar or stem, it is possible.

this method should work, if not, let everything sit over night and try again.

don't bother trying to heat, as you will ruin the paint and it won't reach the stem anyway.

also you can try pounding the stem further in once the wedge is loose, this will at least get it moving.

not too far though...

use a soft mallet, not a waffle head framing hammer, got it?


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Old 10-17-05, 08:41 AM   #10
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Definitely unscrew the bolt before you whacking it with a mallet. Otherwise it won't accomplish anything.

Also, while we're at it, could everyone please stop saying "your" when you mean "you're," and vice versa.
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Also, while we're at it, could everyone please stop saying "your" when you mean "you're," and vice versa.
i wasted alot of time trying to find the false usage, but alas, i have yet to find it.
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Also, while we're at it, could everyone please stop saying "your" when you mean "you're," and vice versa.
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i wasted alot of time trying to find the false usage, but alas, i have yet to find it.
Yeah, not in this post. Just in general.
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Why would you remove the bolt completely? How will you move the wedge then?
My tip is a generous splash of oil inside the stem through the screw hole, then hit the screw head until the wedge is loosened. If it won't loosen, maybe try tightening the screw a bit more to get the wedge move up slightly and get lubricated. Then loosen the screw 2-3 turns and bring in the hammer again.
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I'm assuming that he'd already tried driving the wedge down with the bolt, admittedly not a safe assumption. I've had stems where the wedge itself was stuck to the inside of the steer tube and I could remove the stem itself and work a little more directly on the wedge.
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Old 10-17-05, 10:14 AM   #16
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well thanks guys i cut the damn neck off hacksaw now im drilling the sucker out omg did i get in over my head on second drill bit lol
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ohh yeah make sure u wear eye protection alum likes to fly
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