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    next frame?

    well, this *should* seem obvious, i guess, but i'm looking for advice, input, thoughts etc.

    i've been riding and upgrading my bike over the last year, and when i get these new wheels built up the only original stock parts (from an 04 bianchi pista) left will be the frame and seatpost. so at some point i'll get to the point when i want a better frame. i must say i really like the ride of this frame, but i expect something better quality will be an even better ride. but what frame?

    I want something steel, lugged, with track geometry and minimal clearances (i won't be running fenders or 28s), and i don't want it to murder me financially (probably can't go custom or colnago). i'm thinking about $4-500 for frame only (i'll keep my colnago fork).

    obviously there are used frames to be had in that range, but is there an option for anything new? i can only think of de bernardi, which i think is about that price bracket, but nothing else. so please give me some suggestions and weblinks if possible.

    cheers

    eddie

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    I did a thread about frames in the 500 dollar range a while ago:

    Frames at around the $500 (give or take 100) mark

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    might not be lugged steel, but check cramerroti (sp?)... blow outs on older models, very very lovely frames.

    another canadian: marinoni. great price, but again, might not fit the aesthetics so much... but definately something to look at.

    or maybe that bareknuckle eai thing? price is right, aesthetics as well.
    t.h.r.

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    ^ all three of those aren't lugged, but well within your budgetary requirements

    if you up your budget a bit, you could go for an off-the-peg bob jackson.
    there aren't too many new, budget, lugged steel track frame choices out there. De Bernardi is pretty much it.
    Your other option is custom, but then that's a lot more $$$

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    mondonico might be an option too. anyone know what those run? i assume something like $700 maybe? the ones hanging around freewheel on valencia here in sf look pretty nice.
    t.h.r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by absntr
    I did a thread about frames in the 500 dollar range a while ago:

    Frames at around the $500 (give or take 100) mark

    yea and nothing that was posted fits the bill, other than the de bernardi. the one that sounded interesting, the andante bikes ting, was a dead link. what did you end up buying? i know what wheels you have but not the frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
    yea and nothing that was posted fits the bill, other than the de bernardi. the one that sounded interesting, the andante bikes ting, was a dead link. what did you end up buying? i know what wheels you have but not the frame

    also anyone got a link to bareknuckle / nessuno? googled to no avail
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    business cycles has them.
    t.h.r.

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    So does Bill Ron and YoJimbo's

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    http://businesscycles.com/nessuno.htm there you go eddie

    i really like debernardi. im in a similar situation soon. in about january ill be in the market for a new frame. only origional part on my bike is the stem and seatpost.

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    how tall are you? if youre short like me.. id go buy that khs at trackstar for 350.. love the curved downtube

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    or buy ceya's sannino pursuit bike...that thing is hot!
    "Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastard. Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off."

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    cheers j,

    here's a couple things though

    i don't want a 1 1/8" headtube
    i don't want another tig-welded frame

    what i really want is a keirin frame, basically, only i don't care about njs certification, i don't need hatta bits or a fork, i don't need it custom-built, and i want it for $500

    ps check yr inbox; i need yr email

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy robot
    how tall are you? if youre short like me.. id go buy that khs at trackstar for 350.. love the curved downtube
    5-9. i'll go look cheers.

    what is ceya selling?

    i want something real plain and classic though, not really trying to do curved tubes or funny-bikes.

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    your dream bike doesn't exist

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    Getting a custom lugged frame w/o a fork for a little more than $500 isn't out of the realms of possibility. There are younger/newer builders who are trying to establish names for themselves and therefore charge a lot less than more established builders.

    For example, there's a guy in town here who would almost certainly be able to hook you within that price range, depending on the lugs, tubing, etc that you wanted.

    m.

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    used is the best way - you can get a banging used steel lugged frame for around $500

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    i got my keirin for 400 and some change, they exist, you need to be patient if its what you really want

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    yeah, I got my 3rensho for under 400 and love it. Ceya has his sannino pursuit frame at trackstar, it is a curve top tube but that thing is sweet as hell. If your going to get a keirin frame, they almost always come with a fork, and I'd say ditch the colnago fork and keep the keirin fork, it'll just look weird with a colnago fork on a keirin frame. I'd check trackstar to see if they have frames, it's the closest place that would have any in stock, maybe bikeworks too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baxtefer
    your dream bike doesn't exist

    a lugged, round-tube, steel frame for $500? what's the big deal? there's the de bernardi which is exactly that. i'm just trying to find alternatives.

    like i said, doesn't have to be custom, just wondering if anyone else is making something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
    what did you end up buying? i know what wheels you have but not the frame
    I didn't buy a frame for that wheelset, but that wheelset belongs to Sophia as pictured:



    Reason being, I score a Colnago Super Track, Greta (new wheels - Campy Record hubs on FIR's being built tonight):



    I dig the Cramerotti's a lot. Almost considered that before the Colnago came my way. I almost placed an order for the Bob Jackson listed in that thread and above. It comes to about $640 US shipped and is one sexy frame.

    I was planning a similar build and colour to this (Turd's ex's bike - sorry for linking!) - I love vanilla/cream:



    As suggsted, a used frame is the way to go otherwise (the Cramerotti's are hella nice in my opinion). Wait for e-framebank to open up.

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    i only say keirin because they continue to make the exact frame the i want. yea man i'd love a 3rensho, no ****ing doubt, and of course if i came up on one i'd keep the fork, headset and bb.

    just used keirin as a style guide

    and yeah, no funny bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiebrannan
    i only say keirin because they continue to make the exact frame the i want. yea man i'd love a 3rensho, no ****ing doubt, and of course if i came up on one i'd keep the fork, headset and bb.

    just used keirin as a style guide

    and yeah, no funny bikes
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    i have pals in japan too. i could get something from framebank thru them, right? it's only closed to gaijin, isn't it?

    love the colnago. the bob jackson is nice too. isn't he in bk?

    edit: no he's in uk, not bk. which framebuilder am i thinking of?

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    have you checked re-loads stock of used keiren?

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