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Old 10-20-05, 01:20 PM   #1
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?! bomb-proof rims !?

just posted this qeustion in the wheelbuilding thread, but figured I need some visibility for this one...

I'm building up a rear fixed wheel (see fEeDbAcK pLeAsE !! [conversion/hubs/paint] )...

Yesterday I spent all evening at my community LBS here in Ithaca, NY (the one where you can actually use the shop and everything in it, and there are no products for sale...yes...very cool) pretty much just stripping everything down from my bike, and overhauling before I begin my build (hub still being sent to BikeWorksNYC...to then be sent to me)

The guy here who runs the shop advized me to lace my joint to one of 4 rims. He named two DT rims (which I can't remember). He also told me either Mavic OpenPro or Mavic A 719 . He said the A 719, however, was more bomb-proof than the open pro (although a bit heavier).

I do not mind weight on my bike (I don't think), and like the 'bomb proof' idea. Do yall back up this statement?....or what is yall's opinions about a good daily-use rim? Although the a 719 is bombproof, am I gonna have any problems with the OpenPro lasting through thick and thin?
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Old 10-20-05, 01:24 PM   #2
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From what I know, both of those Mavics would probably be fine. I've yet to run across any complaints about the Open Pros.

If weight really doesn't matter to you: Velocity Fusions or Deep Vs. Should need very little in the way of truing/tensioning maintenance if built correctly.
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Old 10-20-05, 01:44 PM   #3
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Are you talking about a MTB rim or a road rim? The A 719 is a MTB rim. That'll do you no good on a road frame...
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Old 10-20-05, 01:45 PM   #4
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are you serious?....thanks!....didn't know that

yea...I'm looking for a road rim
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Old 10-20-05, 01:46 PM   #5
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Posted too early. I also wanted to add that the DT rims are good (the 1.1 I suspect), so are the Mavics and the Velocity's. Do a search on "bombproof rims".
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Velocity Deep Vs. Non-machined. Sexy.
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thanks absntr
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i can't say enough good things about my Velocity Deep Vs. i hit a pothole pretty hard the other night in the dark (one of those kaCHUNKs that runs halfway up your arms) and got really nervous. the next day i checked for dings or dents and found none. i love those rims.
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Depends on how you ride, what the streets are like, and your weight I would think. Deep v's are nice, but cost a bit more than say open pros (which my friend has yet to say anything negative about in the past couple of years he's riden on them (and he's 195lbs.!)

Fusions look nice too, and I think a bit cheaper than the v's.

As for bombproof, what kind? Atomic, nuclear, fusion? And are they lugged?
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Velocity Fusions all the way.
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You can dent any rim, you can taco any wheel. There is no bomb proofing. A wheel built by yourself, I hate to say this is not going to be bombproof unless you are a born natural or have done it many many times. A wheel is bombproof because of the accuracy to which the spokes are tensioned and to a minor degree, whether it is eyeleted or not. A cxp33 is a very good rim and the spoke won't pull out the rim at the eyelet (because there are none) which I have seen happen on an MA3. The quality of a wheel is in the build, an open pro/phil made by a machine is going to suck no matter what, built that combination built by a seasoned pro will be much better.
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thanks for the input endform,
sounds theoretically very rational

don't think I'm a born natural, and haven't done it many times... but I'm bout to build a dope asss wheel, I know that much

do open pro's have eyelets?
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Open Pros have sockets, aka double eyelets. Unlike the MA3 which has a single eyelet, meaning the outer rim surface is cut away to install the eyelet but without any sort of additional support, thus weakening it, the OP uses a full sleeve that distributes the load to the inner and outer rim surface, offering greater strength.
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no bicycle rim will withstand a bomb
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The A719 are 700c and will only accept 28c+ tires.
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no bicycle rim will withstand a bomb
You nimcompoop don't you know:



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I ride around on my Deep V Velocity rims here in Toronto and our streets suck PLUS we have streetcar tracks and they are still true and look fantastic. I got mine for a song, but I now know that they are worth twice the money I paid.
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What I'm using are 29'er MTB or cyclocross style rims (Salsa Delgado-X). If they can handle being ridden exclusively offroad, they can handle a pothole or two. Also, they aren't too expensive.
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If you were buying an entire wheel (versus building it yourself), I would say that Velocity Deep Vs aren't that expensive, as you can buy them cheaply and well-built from IRO, laced to some nice, sealed, IRO/Formula hubs.

Does anybody know if Tony sells just the rims?
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