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Old 11-07-05, 12:46 PM   #1
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Bianchi Pista, KHS Flite 100, or a Langster?

Which one people? I am trying to decide....help me out if you can... What do you think would be a better commuter bike... The only one I have not ridden is the Bianchi.
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Old 11-07-05, 12:51 PM   #2
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Old 11-07-05, 12:53 PM   #3
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Pista.
Of the three, Pista hands down
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Old 11-07-05, 01:01 PM   #4
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I like the Raleigh Rush Hour too! It seems like that should be on your list as well as the IRO Mark V.

IRO always gets the most votes whenever anyone asks such a question on here though. so perhaps it doesn't matter WHAT is on your list Still I would ride the Raleigh, and the Bianchi if you can.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:05 PM   #5
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Pista is the only one with true track geometry. Not important if you're commuting, but you are buying a track bike.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:09 PM   #6
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Depending on the size frame you get, you're going to have toe overlap with the Pista and the KHS. Not sure if you care...
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Old 11-07-05, 01:12 PM   #7
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fwiw i have a 53 pista w/ 165 and a fork w/ less trail than the stock. no overlap.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:17 PM   #8
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fwiw i have a 53 pista w/ 165 and a fork w/ less trail than the stock. no overlap.
more rake?
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Old 11-07-05, 01:22 PM   #10
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go by color.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:24 PM   #11
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you sure? the stock bianchi fork has 28 degrees of rake.
that colnago looks more like 40. it is a hot fork though.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:31 PM   #13
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i have a pista with stock rake and no toe overlap. pista is ok for commuting but it has track geometry so that is basically why i went with it.
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IRO's wheelset is better than the stock wheelset on those bikes, it seems.

I know a guy who's had a pista for a bit over a year. the wheels started to self destruct, breaking spokes and whatnot, while it was in his garage.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:44 PM   #15
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you sure? the stock bianchi fork has 28 degrees of rake.
that colnago looks more like 40. it is a hot fork though.

jay you may be right, though i believe the colnago fork appears more raked because it's straight and therefore set at a slacker angle than the headtube, whereas the stock fork continues at the same angle before kicking out.

pretty hard to say, i guess, and i don't own a protractor. the tire is about 2cm from the downtube.

i do know that on the 55 with 170 i had overlap with this fork; 165 changed that
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less trail = more rake
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IRO, great all around bike. awsome commuter and can still be used for the track. better looking, imo, than the pista and better wheels. Plus Tony runs a great company is a great guy to do business with.

Soooo... yeah anothe vote for IRO.

Any reason it's not on your list?
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less trail = more rake

explain
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Old 11-07-05, 02:18 PM   #19
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What about a Soma Rush or Plake or a Surly Steamroller?
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What is toe overlap?
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Old 11-07-05, 02:42 PM   #21
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when you hit your toe/pedal with your front wheel when turning it
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imagine yourself on the bike, your left foot is forward, you try to turn right the wheel bangs into your foot.

this is an issue with track bikes because they're not designed for sharp turns, and their wheelbases are very short
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explain
http://www.phred.org/~josh/bike/trail.html
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the rush hour has almost exactly the same geometry as the pista
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