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Old 11-07-05, 11:46 PM   #1
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velodromes near boston?

what's the closest velodrome to boston? i was thinking that it would be a lot of fun to shed my front brake and tear ass around a track some weekend.
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Old 11-07-05, 11:54 PM   #2
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Kissena !

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Old 11-08-05, 12:13 AM   #3
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somehow i don't see myself lugging my bike on the fung wah
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Well. The only 'real' velodrome around you is the one in NYC. It is Kissena. But, there is this velodrome....if you call it that....

http://www.leadcycling.com/

But, the good news is that the vandedrome was bought by a club in western massachusetts. more info of the vandedrome can be found at....

http://members.aol.com/velodromes/Vandedrome/
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http://www.northamptoncyclingclub.org/

Woo Woo...

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Old 11-08-05, 12:37 AM   #5
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somehow i don't see myself lugging my bike on the fung wah
Many of us have. In fact three of us just did it for halloweekend. Not a big deal--you just toss your bike into the cargo hold. It won't get damaged.
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Hmm. The Vanedrome is a four hour drive into the boonies, and Kissena is a four hour bus ride into awesomeness. Whichever will I choose?

Seriously, the Fung Wah is so painless it's ridiculous. I'm thinking about heading down AMAHP (as much as humanly possible). Anybody up for some weekend excursions?

EDIT: Also, you have to have a valid USCF racing license to ride the Vanedrome. I don't know if it's the same at Kissena, but I'm thinking not.
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looks fun though
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After May (end of collegiate racing season) I'm definitely down to go to NYC on some weekends. If you think Kissena will somehow be open in the ass coldness of February, I could do it then as well. My grandmother has a small apartment in mid-town Manhattan, so I always have a place to stay (and can fit another person in there if need be).

Also, if anyone has a car (or I could get a Zipcar), we can go to that thing up in New Hampshire every once in a while as well.
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You know, it does look like fun. Maybe we can do a tour of all the "nearby" velodromes in New England. One weekend at Vanedrome, one at Kissena, and one at that racecar track in NH.


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Haha, have fun! I've no intention of returning to NH until I can cook an egg on the pavement.
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you have to have a valid USCF racing license to ride the Vanedrome. I don't know if it's the same at Kissena, but I'm thinking not.
In most cases when one is required you can buy a temp. license for the day, at least thats how it is for Wed. Night training Crits at the Indust. Park in Lincoln, RI. We should do a little road trip like that ... I'll volunteer my tansportation for that one.
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Kissena is public, so no USCF liense. It is outdoor and in a public park (Kissena Park in Queens).

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Haha, have fun! I've no intention of returning to NH until I can cook an egg on the pavement.
Agreed, so obvioulsy we'd go in the spring Jrowe and you will be coming.
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The only thing I've heard is that the Chinatown buses are usually fine, but sometimes the drivers can be weird about it. Since they're $30 RT now that they have to leave out of South Station, I just take Greyhound/Peter Pan who have dropped their Boston/NYC fare to $30 RT as well.
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I've gone there and back twice now using the Chinatown busses and experienced no such weirdness. The key seems to be never asking questions. Just climb into the storage bay and lock your bike to the supports so it stands upright. Nobody troubled me in the least. Some other observations, having traveled both ways:

- Less waiting in lines with Chinatown bus. There's no separate ticket line, so it's marginally faster.
- No finding your way through Port Authority upon arrival.
- Technically, your bike is supposed to be boxed with Greyhound (though nobody seems to care).
- No sh!tty movie.

On the other hand, I haven't heard of a Greyhound exploding on the side of the highway.
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To my knowledge, the Vandedrome is not currently built. It was purchased by the Northampton Cycling Club in 2003 but all the boards need to be reconditioned and reassembled at an estimated cost of $50k. It's always been real close to being ready to go.

http://www.valleydrome.org/
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Old 11-08-05, 10:43 AM   #18
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- Technically, your bike is supposed to be boxed with Greyhound (though nobody seems to care).
Not so. Greyhound's policy explicitly allows unboxed travel between NY & Boston. Peter Pan doesn't allow it unless there's an empty bin. The catch is that when you buy the $30 ticket, you get a pool ticket which means that you could travel on Greyhound or Peter Pan. What I didn't realize is that they have different policies, so I once got into a shouting match with the dispatcher in the Port Authority terminal who told me I couldn't travel with my unboxed bike even though GPX was out of boxes. I would have had to wait another hour to travel on a Greyhound bus.

Fortunately they had an empty bay after all.

So the real thing is just to make sure that your departing ticket is on a Greyhound bus, that's the one that's schedule restricted. You can return on any bus you want. Since you get to pick the exact route, it's no problem to pick one that's Greyhound.

I guess I just like knowing that there is a policy that explicitly allows it, even if it kind of sucks in with GH vs. PP. I know I've heard people who talk about being charged a bike fee by some drivers and one person who was told they'd have to buy a whole second fare (what?!).
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Old 11-08-05, 10:53 AM   #19
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Trevor, that kind of sounds like the hassle you were trying to avoid by going with Greyhound...

The Chinatown bus people seem pretty savvy, and fiercely competitive with other companies. If anybody hassles you, just say you're going to Lucky Star instead and ask for a refund.

Actually, I should specify that I rode the last two times on Lucky Star, as opposed to Fung Wah. Maybe that's the key. Try Lucky Star, kids! Motherfung the Wah.
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Oh, it totally is. But I didn't know that until after it was too late. Now that I know, I would simply make sure that both legs of my journey are on Greyhound, which is cake. Just look at the schedule on the Internets.

Anyhow, ya gots options, go with whatever makes you feel easier. I'm sure threatening to travel on a different bus would be enough to make any of the drivers relent, but I hate playing the ******* card, so I'll go with the known setup.

Plus I just like the ride from mid-town. I seem to usually stay in Chelsea or so and I love that initial spin 20 blocks straight down 9th Ave.
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I'm so confused. I see all these bros on sweet brakless track bikes in the city, but there's no velodrome close. What's up?
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I'll ride in the cold ... I have gear for it and I plan on it. I suppose some of us don't though, at least not for real distance/training rides anyway. I'm going to get some good base in this winter on my new fixed road frame ... soon to come, almost done.

This thread has been totally hijacked, shame on all of us.

... Yeah that veldrome thing.
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I'm so confused. I see all these bros on sweet brakelss track bikes in the city, but there's no velodrome close nearby. What's up?
you mean they ride those things on the street? how strange and mystical ... I want one.
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whoa! slow down people. The vandedrome is not constructed. They just bought the boards and it need to be highly refurbished. The cycling club is hoping to have it put indoors in the next 10 years. so hold onto your hopes and dreams!

The vandedrome is awesome though!
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*sigh* I wish somebody would buy a portable velodrome and refurbish it here in Boston.

I like the word "refurbish."
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