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    etiquette for a taxi nudge?

    i have to admit, i am a lurker since my membership,but i have question. i was waiting for a left turn single on houston st so i was in a trackstand in the divider lane, and then a taxi just nudged me. Not enough to throw me off, but enough so i was confused how to respond. any ideas?

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    throw your bike through the taxi's windshield. or, get the plate # and cab company and report it to the coppers. wreckless endangerment ahoy!

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    Mr. U-lock meet Mr. Windshield

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    alas, i need to invest in a u lock for i only have a secondary coiled lock

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    yeah, and one looks rather lame when they get tangled up in their own cable lock as they try to use it to break a window...

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    ooooh. i'm curious to see where this thread goes after the initial u-lock throwing responses. i mean, seriously? what would happen if you threw a u-lock? you'd be in *****.

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    Whip out yer ***, pump a few rounds into the windshield, then ride off into the moonlight like a gangstaaaaaaaaaaaa






    by ***, I mean u lock, as baxtefer said

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    Quote Originally Posted by xunwedsailorx
    ooooh. i'm curious to see where this thread goes after the initial u-lock throwing responses. i mean, seriously? what would happen if you threw a u-lock? you'd be in *****.
    How so? If you seriously threw your lock at a car's windshield and took off, I think you could get away and how would they ever find you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvabiker
    How so? If you seriously threw your lock at a car's windshield and took off, I think you could get away and how would they ever find you?
    they'd catch me when i went back to pick it up. no way i'm dropping another 70 bones on another ny lock.

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    leap off your bike, take your chain off as you spin around in midair, land on the hood of the cab, and swing the chain through the windshield - breaking through it. Then, punch the cabbie in the face. Grab him by the collar and say "don't **** with the bikers, motherfücker!", then leap back onto your bike (which should still be standing) and speed off through that left hand turn signal that just changed for you.

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    No no no boys, you've got it all wrong. These methods involve using what the law would deem "weapons." This will land you in the ____. Therefore, the way forward is merely to unclip the foot closest to the offending vehicle, hold the metal part of the cleat against the bodywork and then wait for them to drive off. Voila! No court date and maximum annoyance imposed!
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    Stand your ground. Let them know what they did was wrong. If you have time and he is in traffic ride up to the cab and let the driver know. if he gets hostile ,knock him out but do it as self defense . DON'T LET THEM GET THE BEST OF YOU!


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    if you keep your ulock in your hand or on your bars you could make it look like an accident, but then it's awkward to keep your lock on your bars all the time

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    There's no "ettiquette" for a "nudge". That's assault and battery, assault with a dangerous weapon, reckless endangerment, and/or a few others besides. It's severely illegal in any state.

    What you do about it is up to you. I like s_9's solution best.

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    All these calls for violent action forget that cabbies don't own their cabs, and don't particularly care what kind of condition they're in. They *might* have to pay for damage, but even that's relatively uncommon; it's built into the overhead of the business, just like parking tickets are built into Fresh Direct's overhead.

    If you get "nudged" and can catch up, the correct response is to stand in front of the cab so he can't get away and call the police. It's called assault, and even if you can't get them to file charges (and you won't be able to), you can *probably* get them to file an accident report (though you're going to have to insist like a sonofa*****, and may have to politely request that a senior officer join you and the patrol officer), which is going to hurt him much more than a broken window or a scratched finish on a car he doesn't even own: it's going to make his taxi lease and his insurance more expensive. If they won't even take an accident report, go to the precinct and pick up the form for self-reporting an accident; fill it out and send it to Albany within ten days.

    Be sure also to call 311 and file a complaint with the Taxi and Limo commission the same day he hits you, and be prepared to take an afternoon off one day in the future and go to a hearing to tell them about it. If enough people go to enough hearings, he'll have to start hitting people with his OWN car.

    Sure, he only nudged you. But the reason you didn't fall under somebody else's wheels and get your head popped is that you're a skilled rider. The next guy he hits might not be as good, or might simply be distracted; without this driver's history on record, that death will be a "tragic acident" rather than the culmination of a string of assaults against cyclists.

    I *know* filing all the reports and chasing them down and following up is a PITA. But the simple fact that the city is so reluctant to do the right thing in car / bike crashes is evidence that we need to be more insistant. They're not EVIL, they're just BEUROCRATS. When enough people start insisting, they'll start making it easier, and they may even start being a little bit proactive and ticketing / charging drivers who hit us. And if they do, MAYBE the death rate will start dropping. Wouldn't that be nice?
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    Actually, even in NY, almost a third of medallion cabs are owner-operated. A little over half are leased to the opetor and the remainder are owned by taxi companies. So, yes, damage to a cab is actually something the operator will most likely feel directly. Whether they care or not is a separate question. Of course this all assumes you're actually taking the above retaliatory responses seriously.

    Being a cabbie's not unlike being a bike courier. You join a company to get access to their dispatcher, but you're still expected to bring your own equipment and may very well have to pay to lease anything provided by the company such as a radio.

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    Escalation is almost always a bad idea (u-lock, fisticuffs, etc) but you definitely need to confront him and educate him a bit. Assertively.

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    unless you're gonna pull some shaolin ninja style revenge like s_9 suggested, broken robot has the right idea.

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    Punch out the side view mirror glass. It's easy to break, and they'll get a ticket if they don't take care of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenrobot

    If you get "nudged" and can catch up, the correct response is to stand in front of the cab so he can't get away and call the police. It's called assault, and even if you can't get them to file charges (and you won't be able to), you can *probably* get them to file an accident report (though you're going to have to insist like a sonofa*****, and may have to politely request that a senior officer join you and the patrol officer), which is going to hurt him much more than a broken window or a scratched finish on a car he doesn't even own: it's going to make his taxi lease and his insurance more expensive. If they won't even take an accident report, go to the precinct and pick up the form for self-reporting an accident; fill it out and send it to Albany within ten days.
    standing in front of a car that has already hit you once, doesn't strike me as something i would consider a good idea, in the event that it was a malicious act, you could be asking for more trouble than the original contact. all the rest of that i can agree with.

    and to all those that reply to throwing a ulock, about 6 months ago in sf i watched a cabbie beat the crap out of some punk kid, and just this past monday night i watched a cabbie get out of his cab and grab a fool and throw bounce him off the rear quarter pannel then slam him to the ground, before folks on the block could try and break it up.

    violence only begets more violence, i dunno i tend to ride for fun, not to be that bad mf rolling through the streets...

    but if you must get some form of payback, don't throw your lock be a wo/man about it and catch up and walk up to the cab door and smash the window and pull the cabbie out of the freakin' cab and put in the
    work, and while you're at it take his $$$, cellphone and yank out his radio and take their keys of course.

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    I carry pepper spray for the times I have to "talk" to a motorist. Taxi or not, that large metal cage makes most feel untouchable. This has to change. A short burst of pepper spray while a car is not moving would give the driver plenty of time to realize they are touchable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crushkilldstroy
    they'd catch me when i went back to pick [my U-lock] up. no way i'm dropping another 70 bones on another ny lock.
    You don't throw it, just hold it by the shackle and swing it.

    I'd tell the driver to take more care next time... If he's an ass about it and it looks like the nudge was intentional, kick the mirror off and ride away.
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    Doug what kinda goofy crap are you getting in to now? Do what we in london do and give them an earful about how kids these days have no respect. Tosser.
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