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    135 spaced track frames

    So I am wondering if there are any. I am about to buy some new hubs, but I am also about to build up a ss 29er, so if there were any 135 spaced track frames I could use these same wheels for both and that would be badass. thanks

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    I think your answer may be found with Level Components.
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    I think the older kogswell's are

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    My Starnord Paris-Sport is 110.

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    on one il pompino is 135mm, until the new ones come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkercycles
    I wouldnt consider them true "track" frames though...
    a "true" track frame will have a spacing of 120,sometimes in Japan 110.
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    What Don said.

    Kogswell single-fixed framesets aren't track bikes or even path racers.

    They're the result of sixty years of fixed gear road cycling shared between
    the two designers, myself and a close friend and riding buddy; the guy who
    actully got me interested in bikes and fixed gear cycling back in '69.

    If they seem polished and smooth it's because spent a lot of years in
    the saddle going over evey detail until it <was> polished.

    And before I forget, if the original poster wants to get a nice 135mm
    rear fixee hub, Tony (IRO) still has some of the original 135mm,
    Kogswell-designed rear hubs in stock. They built with super fancy
    hardware and they use the 'tight' bearing design, which renders them
    very durable. We wanted them be tough enough to stand up to the
    rigors of urban cycling and so for, no one is complaining.
    Last edited by Kogswell; 11-21-05 at 04:54 PM.

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    A 29er rim is different then a 700c.

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    the il pompino is a good bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiecker
    A 29er rim is different then a 700c.
    no it aint

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    i thought 29ers were a little wider than a standard 700c

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    Watch those track crankarms clearing wide splayed chainstays...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogswell
    I've been wondering... what is a "true" track frame?
    i (as a non-expert) would say the geometry including ability to accept track spaced hubs (120mm or 110mm as stated by don) as well as the single gear lacking a freewheel (fixed gear). not to forget the lack of brakes and brake holes ...etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fixer
    Watch those track crankarms clearing wide splayed chainstays...
    Or, just use a mountain bike crankset. The outer chainring on MTB cranks is positioned at 52mm if you use the crank's matching BB. Hence the 'standard' 52mm spacing on MTB single speed and fixee hubs (Kogswell, Phil, Surly, On One, etc.). I'm no expert, but I've heard that MTB cranks are pretty easier to find. And the MTB single-speed craze has left us with plenty of nice rampless/pinless chainings that fit them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbthomps
    i thought 29ers were a little wider than a standard 700c
    I'm running 29" fatties on your typical bontrager race lite 700c wheels. They don't necessarily need to be wider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbthomps
    i thought 29ers were a little wider than a standard 700c
    "29er" refers only to the rim diameter (which is nowhere near 29")
    Open Pros seem to be pretty popular 29er rims. I've seen people run 2" tires on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travsi
    i (as a non-expert) would say the geometry including ability to accept track spaced hubs (120mm or 110mm as stated by don) as well as the single gear lacking a freewheel (fixed gear). not to forget the lack of brakes and brake holes ...etc.
    So 120 or 110mm spacing, a fixed gear and no brakes or brake holes.

    So what does the geometry look like?

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    Surly Crosschecks and Iro Rob Roys and Jaime Roys all take 135s.

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    i think the van dessel country road bob is 135.
    surly crosscheck can also work with 135.

    probably not going to find any off the shelf frame with track geometry & 135 spacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogswell
    So what does the geometry look like?
    steep angles.
    tight clearances.
    high bb.
    overlapping of toe clip and front wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatbat
    i think the van dessel country road bob is 135.
    surly crosscheck can also work with 135.

    probably not going to find any off the shelf frame with track geometry & 135 spacing.

    the CRB is totally 135.
    Philosophy and feelings don't change the laws of physics

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmg
    Surly Crosschecks and Iro Rob Roys and Jaime Roys all take 135s.
    I don't think my Jamie Roy would like a 135mm hub shoved up its 130mm track ends. Also, it doesn't really have track geometry. This sounds like a custom job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treechunk
    the CRB is totally 135.
    perhaps you could get a trackish feel by using a road fork on one of these cross frames. might screw up BB hight, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennetht638
    I don't think my Jamie Roy would like a 135mm hub shoved up its 130mm track ends. Also, it doesn't really have track geometry. This sounds like a custom job.

    i shoved a 135 XT mountain hub in my trek 600, which is spaced at 130. if the jamie roy is steel, it's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travsi
    steep angles.
    tight clearances.
    high bb.
    overlapping of toe clip and front wheel.
    So, here's what I have so far:

    - 120 or 110 rear spacing
    - a fixed gear
    - no brakes or brake drilling
    - steep angles
    - tight clearances
    - high bottom bracket
    - TOC (toe clip overlap)

    Not to be dense, but how steep should the angles be? And should they be the same front and rear?
    Also, how high should the BB be. And is it better to talk about BB height or BB drop (front wheel axle centerline)? Oh, and is there a reason why TOC is required? I'm gonna assume 700C (ISO 622) wheels.
    And if someone could list chainstay length and fork offset, I'd be obliged. Thanks!

    One more thing... how tight are the clearances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennetht638
    I don't think my Jamie Roy would like a 135mm hub shoved up its 130mm track ends. Also, it doesn't really have track geometry. This sounds like a custom job.
    I've routinely used 135mm hubs on frames spaced at 130. Hardly a big deal at all.

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