Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-22-05, 05:47 PM   #1
James H Haury
Hauja
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central North Dakota
Bikes: not as many but still too many
Posts: 848
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have just converted my Dahon Getaway ( 20 inch wheel coaster brake single speed) to a fixie with a bmx wheel and 16T fixed cog secured with loctite red. I have used this method before with a 16 inch wheel bike as a winter rider. It works well and safely for recreational riding on snow and ice.My question is has anyone used loctite blue to do the same thing. To get the cog off while using red i will have to heat it to 260 degrees to loosen it . A cog secured with loctite blue would be easier to remove should i ever wish to, but is it safe?

Last edited by James H Haury; 11-22-05 at 05:56 PM.
James H Haury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-05, 05:49 PM   #2
dolface
Iguana Subsystem
 
dolface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: san francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 4,016
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
no, it's not safe. not even a little.
dolface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-05, 05:55 PM   #3
James H Haury
Hauja
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central North Dakota
Bikes: not as many but still too many
Posts: 848
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I am glad i did not use blue.
James H Haury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-05, 06:06 PM   #4
spud
i am sure that i hate you
 
spud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: 703
Bikes: 'Cha-ruzu Fosuta Orusan Kein' Fuji Track (2005), Schwinn Tank MTB (?), Fuji Royale (1979)
Posts: 3,230
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i was curious if anyone had made fixed conversions out of the Dahons or any other folders.
__________________
putting the pi back in pirate!
Quote:
It’s an upstanding member of the solar system
Apply the laws of earth and make it a victim
Of Proposition 187
spud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-05, 06:48 PM   #5
Seggybop
o.O
 
Seggybop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 576
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Do you have a bb lockring? with that, assuming it's tightened enough, the cog isn't coming off even if you don't have any loctite at all. Way more likely that the threads will eventually strip.
Seggybop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-05, 10:08 PM   #6
BostonFixed
Banned.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 4,418
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I run my bumbike hub with blue loctite. It's been flawless for almost 2k miles now. I skip, skid, aggressively backpedal, etc. Not a single problem. I gots a front brake also. Works for me.
BostonFixed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-05, 10:30 PM   #7
mrRed
we're here, we steer!!
 
mrRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 1,412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i think its mentioned before, but if you're not running a brake, please wear a ginormous bright orance dunce hat on your head so we can all stay far far out of the way.

kthnxybye.
mrRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 12:36 AM   #8
r-dub
likes avocadoes
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: oakland, ca
Bikes: heh, like that info would fit here...
Posts: 1,125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The problem is that you have competing goals:
1) want the cog to not unthread itself when riding
2) want the cog to come off easily when wrenching

The solution is to use the correct technology (a fixed hub with a reverse-threaded lockring.) If you're going to cheat on that solution, then don't expect good results, choose either safe to ride and hard to remove, or suicidal but easy to wrench on. I'd go with the red AND a bb ring.
r-dub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 07:13 AM   #9
Aeroplane
jack of one or two trades
 
Aeroplane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Posts: 5,637
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by r-dub
The solution is to use the correct technology (a fixed hub with a reverse-threaded lockring.)
The problem with that is that this folder has 110mm spacing (or so I assume, he used a BMX wheel), and most track hubs are 120mm. Plus, take into account the ridiculously short stays, and bending the frame that much becomes a real hassle.

So, the only REAL way to get a safe fixed hub on that bike is to find a 110mm keirin rear hub ($$$$$) or convert a 120mm hub by removing spacers (Suzue's and DA's, usually). Either way, a boatload of cash for one lousy tiny wheel.

Or, you could just keep using your suicide wheel with a brake. I did it all summer with a rotafixed blue loctite wheel. Not much skipping or skidding, but it held anyways.
Aeroplane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 07:34 AM   #10
Boe
fixed.se
 
Boe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Bikes:
Posts: 102
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I build this a while ago:



Twentyfixer
Boe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 10:12 AM   #11
Boe
fixed.se
 
Boe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Bikes:
Posts: 102
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
BTW, these cheap hubs can easily be respaced to 110mm

http://www.sjscycles.com/store/vIndex.htm?item11137.htm




ps. I used green Loctite and rotafixa method to secure the lockring. And itäs kinda hard to skid with this bike.
Boe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 10:16 AM   #12
isotopesope
shoot up or shut up.
 
isotopesope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: colorado springs, co
Bikes: yes please.
Posts: 1,961
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
it's completely safe. it comes 'highly' recommended. don't be a baby and use brakes either.
isotopesope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 10:20 AM   #13
YellowFixedGear
Fear the banana
 
YellowFixedGear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York City (Uptown)
Bikes: 1950s EG Bates track & 1960s Frejus track
Posts: 719
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boe
I build this a while ago:



Twentyfixer

Thats wild
YellowFixedGear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 10:52 AM   #14
fatbat
spinspinspinspin
 
fatbat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 880
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
A little redundancy in stopping wouldn't hurt your safety. Put a brake on.
fatbat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 07:13 PM   #15
James H Haury
Hauja
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central North Dakota
Bikes: not as many but still too many
Posts: 848
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
As I stated I have had good results with red loctite if i could afford a track hub and a handbuilt wheel I would buy them.I really would like to whittle down my number of bicycles and a fixed and free wheel would eliminate one bike.I am however currently financially challenged ,so food, shelter ,my phone bill etc take priority. I never stomp and i do not skid the wheel.I also run a front brake.I ****** the the pedals to slow the bike but i do not go that fast anyway .The 20 inch wheel fixie ( Dahon Getaway)will be my antidote for cabin fever.My 16 inch wheel fix( Dahon formerly a classic 3) allowed me to play on ice and snow without falling.The 20 incher should be slightly faster.Tires are tioga comp 3's 20 x 1.50 inflatable to 60 psi.

Last edited by James H Haury; 11-23-05 at 07:33 PM.
James H Haury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-05, 07:38 PM   #16
James H Haury
Hauja
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Central North Dakota
Bikes: not as many but still too many
Posts: 848
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have four fixed conversions 2 Dahons and 1 yeah ( A liscense built Dahon clone ) All use a fixed cog and red loctite .I also have Roll N fold fixie 14 inch tires with a fixed cog and red loctite . They all fold. The roll n fold went with me to Milwaukee Wisconson and Coronado California in a suitcase.
James H Haury is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:16 AM.