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Old 12-06-05, 09:58 PM   #1
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The best skipping/skidding tire ever?

I don't know but we are going to find out.
We ordered a handful of the Continental Ultra Sport Home Trainer Tire. It has a very high durometer and is built just for long life on the trainer. But we thought they might work well as a skidding tire. So when they show up, the two of us that like to abuse the back wheel are going to give them a go and see how they hold up. And see how they grip when leaned over.
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Old 12-06-05, 10:01 PM   #2
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the best skipping/skidding tire is a free one.

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Old 12-06-05, 11:12 PM   #3
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i think "best" is a vague term.

longest lasting?
smoothest to skid on / least resistive?

i have been going through about one to two back tires, a month.

michelin were the worst, some types only lasting about 2 to 3 days!
panaracers were so-so.
continentals - slightly better than average.

bontrager race lite are heavy as hell, but seem to last. honestly, they are kind of crap tires, but can't argue with lasting more than a month (with me).
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Old 12-06-05, 11:15 PM   #4
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what about armadillos or gatorskins, i'm about to get a new bike and was thinking about putting some gatorskins on my new bike and putting the new bikes tires on the old one. I figure any tire with kevlar in it must do some good.
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i have been going through about one to two back tires, a month.
maybe its time to run a brake? sure would save you some money. how much is street credit really worth?
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apparently more than tires.
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this question is like "what's the best grip tape for my skateboard" they're all the same when it comes down to it...
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Old 12-07-05, 12:25 AM   #8
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the best for stopping quickly? oh yeah that's the tire that doesn't skip/skid, my bad.
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I usually go through about a tire a month sometimes two, and the only tires that have lasted more than a month have been Botranger/Trek tires. I actually have a pair of trek tires on my bike right now and they've been on there for two months or actually almost three now! I went through conti-ultra gp's in a week and a half. I went through armadillos in a month and a half. I enjoy skidding I don't care about street cred' I just like getting sideways through turns.
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i think i just needed to get it out of my system.
once i got better at skidding, i wanted to do it more and more.
but alas, my tires couldn't hold up.

slowly but surely, it just became more about riding rather than for whatever reason i was skidding so much (oh showing off)...
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i have had the same tires for like a year and juvikyle rode the **** out of them before that...
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Old 12-07-05, 01:12 AM   #12
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this question is like "what's the best grip tape for my skateboard" they're all the same when it comes down to it...
i completely disagree in both regards. Skateboardingwise, sometimes you got the tape that lost its grippiness in a week and other times you had that tape that lasted months. I could usually tell by the rawness of my thumb after a day of skating.

Tires are the same deal, each has its own feel, i have ridden tires that felt like i was riding on ice around turns and then there tires that grip the road like no other.

You could make this aruguemnt for innertubes however!
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yes there are different grip tapes, but they're almost all the same. stop buying the clear neon pink kind if you want it to last.

tires are going to skid through no matter what and one road tire isn't going to skid easier/better than another because it just has to do with how much weight is up front. maybe if you're talking knobby vs slicks, but anything else.. naaaah
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um actually you're wrong... Would you like to know how I concluded this? You said you've had the same tires for a year and anyone who has had the same tires for a year does not skid. Yep, stickier tires will be a little harder to innitiate skid on... and if you really want to make it easy to skid, get 18's and pump them up to 130psi then skid like you're on ice.

but that's not even the point of this thread... he's testing a trainer tire to see how long it will last.
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Old 12-07-05, 02:22 AM   #15
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My armadillos last. I mean last. Sure they suck in lots of other ways (wet traction anyone?) On average though I can make the rear tire last about 4 months and then just switch the front tire to the back at that point. So in other words on one set of armadillos I can go 8 months, then again I only skid maybe 5 times a week and never for distance.
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true, i don't skid the **** out of my tires because there's no point... i skip to stop most of the time or just go through the red lights. i mean, my rear tire has flat spots all over the place, i deifnitely need new tires, but trying to find out what tire skids easier is still worthless... you need to buy your tires for riding performance... they all skid. who cares if it skids well if you can't hold yourself in a sharp turn.

you are, however, correct that higher pressure will make the skid easier.
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Well the record is 479 feet?(497?) and the tire went flat the last twenty feet. So something that slides a little easier, low grip) combined with a more durable compund, less wear, would be good for a guy that likes to screw around skidding. Or for someone trying to get the hang of shifting the bike by sliding the back tire.
For every day street use this would not be a good tire, it has very low grip.
My regular tire is a Vredstein Fortezza, very grippy, supple ride, and I get decent mileage out of them.
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Old 12-07-05, 10:32 AM   #18
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geez guys..tires lasting a few days? i'm so glad i don't utilize skidding/skipping in my riding unless absolutely necessary. my tires usually last me like 9 months.
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it's not that bad, I usually get tires for about $15 a pair and now I have like 5-6 fronts laying arround my apt. so I just started using those now.
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michelin were the worst, some types only lasting about 2 to 3 days!
I think you prob skid way way way way too much

My michelins (axial sport) lasted me a really really really long time non-fixed...and now I'm riding them fixed, and they have held up so far so good

I like fixed gear riding because, I like to move in, out of, and through situations (red lights, pedestrian crossings, oblivious motorists) and NOT break all the time...yes...skidding is fun, but... DAMN....2-3 days?
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Vittoria ---> Rubino
Nice long skid .... many colour to choose from...
Here go my side advertisement....I have a pair of red Rubino for sale (brand spanking NEW) $45 SF local pick up only. PM me if anyone interested..
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kenda kouriers are the thickest 700c tires i have ever seen. i skid and skip for great distances every day and they've lasted me like 4 months. when you skid on them, it sounds like a hive of angry bees zipping up their jackets
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Unless you're doing skid competitions every night I really don't see how someone could go through 1 tire every month. I skid/skip for emergencies only and if I approach a red light too quickly and I've had tires last me over a year. My Michelin Carbons are showing absolutely no sign of wear and I've had them for a couple of months.

Skidding should be used when it's the only option. The whole point of riding brakeless is to find a hole or a way around things. Not to stop for things. if you're stopping that often you might as well put a brake on.
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look it's just fun sometimes... I've been riding brakeless for a while and it's still fun. I know how to skid to stop and I know it's not always the most effective way to stop, but it's fun. funfunfunfunfun don't you understand I like doing it. I like getting sideways on my bike for the same reason I like getting as low as possible on a turn or catching somebody's wheel in a sprint... it's fun! This thread was never about why people skid or how long a tire should last, it was about having a bit of fun with a home training tire.

fine... you win you're better than me for skidding less and making your tires last longer.
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