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    BikeForums Founder Joe Gardner's Avatar
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    I have a love / hate relationship with the singlespeed & fixed gear forum:

    Love: In my basement, I have two fixed gear bikes. A 2004 bianchi pista (all bullhornes, black with red logo, black wheels, black tires, it reminds me of my friends model a rat-rod), and a 1974 gold schwinn I converted myself a last winter. In my front room, I have two singlespeed bikes, a black one for me, a red one for my girlfriend. I love riding on these bikes, 90% of my miles this year, have been on these bikes... If it wasnt for this forum, none of these bikes would be in my house.

    Hate: How a lot of the members that hang out here, are ignoring my basic guidelines (http://www.bikeforums.net/faq.php?faq=basic_guidelines).

    Things need to change. Does the SS/FG forum need its own Foo subforum? FixedGearFoo? Do I need to start to moderate each post that comes in? Should I just close this whole forum down for a month?

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    Joe. I am sorry. The FG/SS forum is the gas. But some of us need to cool our fire.

    Me included. Im gonna read over those rules and you bet your ass I'll do my best to follow them.

    The idea of a FixedFoo is good. I dont go to the foo forum here because when i want to talk about un bike related stuff i want to talk about it with these guys in FG/SS. Dont know why but thats how it is.

    I think we all know what the real problem is though. SHANTS. SHANTS is really the only problem. hehe

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    Oh for the love of all that is good and wholesome make a fixedgearfoo.....I really think it would help. Then those us us that don't care about crap that doesn't mean anything to FG/SS real world would have a home that wouldn't annoy us with a constant barrage of BS posts
    I've been here since 2004? I've never felt this old before.

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    BTW. I am guilty of Harrasment, Disruption, and vulgarity x 5 according to the rules

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    FOR THOSE WHO DON'T CLICK THE LINK JOE PUT UP..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gardner
    I have a love / hate relationship with the singlespeed & fixed gear forum:

    Love: In my basement, I have two fixed gear bikes. A 2004 bianchi pista (all bullhornes, black with red logo, black wheels, black tires, it reminds me of my friends model a rat-rod), and a 1974 gold schwinn I converted myself a last winter. In my front room, I have two singlespeed bikes, a black one for me, a red one for my girlfriend. I love riding on these bikes, 90% of my miles this year, have been on these bikes... If it wasnt for this forum, none of these bikes would be in my house.

    Hate: Alot of the members that hang out here, are ignoring my basic guidelines (http://www.bikeforums.net/faq.php?faq=basic_guidelines).

    Things need to change. Does the SS/FG forum need its own Foo subforum? FixedGearFoo? Do I need to start to moderate each post that comes in? Should I just close this whole forum down for a month?
    cool.

    sorry.

    yes, fixedgearfoo is a good idea.

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    Joe -

    Sorry I don't really know what the solution is. This forum has always been a little off from the others since I've been here (admitedly, not too long) but closing all of it seems a bit much. I don't know about the subforum, really. It was just an idea that I had, thinking that all these kids here want to bash themselves for riding fixies. I don't know why they want to do that. I was just thinking that it might make it easier on the mods (another bagmatching thread - put it in the hipster area.)

    I first came here wondering if I should cover my track bike in black electical tape. Since then, it has seriously changed my life, and how I think about my riding. I was really happy to see threads that went into detail on things I needed to know. But I've also been known to start threads that even Merton made fun of....

    Slightly of topic, but do you have some pics of that 1974 gold schwinn? I probably missed it in the pics sticky...

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    Shut it down Joe.

    Then, bring it back as a Pay member only forum with a disclaimer like the politics section does.


    I'm #1 guilty for violating most of the rules you posted.

    And I've been around a while (longer than most) so I should know better.

    I do know better. Yet I do it.

    Why? Because it's allowed to continue often.

    So, shut it down for a month. Bring it back as disclaimer and pay only. It will whittle things down really quick.

    Glad you're back too. Missed you much.
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    I agree with WK, this way I can stop posting and focus on school.

    Discipline.lol
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    I often wonder why I post what I do. I started posting on BF when I first started to ride to work on my Cannondale. I met a lot of folks off and on. RainmanP was the reason I was interested in fixed. Since then I've met many people here in person, and riden a strech of miles. I forget often to be nice, and just let things slide. I owe Joe a lot for what he's given me a chance to experience here. With out it, my life would be different.
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    A Foo would be nice, but I have to admit that I hate really strictly modded forums. I spend much more time in FYAD than GBS... though I'm mostly a D&D tard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterisk
    A Foo would be nice, but I have to admit that I hate really strictly modded forums.
    Do you think my guidelines are asking for too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by asterisk
    I spend much more time in FYAD than GBS... though I'm mostly a D&D tard.
    I have no idea what you just said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gardner

    I have no idea what you just said...
    wow...seconded
    I've been here since 2004? I've never felt this old before.

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    Shut it down. Most FG/SS topics can be addressed either in Mechanics, Mtb, or Road forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gardner
    Do you think my guidelines are asking for too much?
    No, but we can both agree that there are differences between rules that exist to deter people from being idiots and how they are enforced. I cannot stand it when mods are present in a handful of threads on the main page. Of course this is a matter of the board itself, not just the admins, but a mod who understands proper moderation is highly valuable.

    I haven't really noticed much in terms of mod presense around prior; I'd love to see it remain that way.

    I too, admit that I do not like how much hipster bs goes on in here. We all bash hipsters because we are all afraid of just how close we are to them ourselves.

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    fyad and gbs are somethingawful.com forums, fyad is not really moderated as far as content is concerned.

    sup bikeforums goons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gardner
    Things need to change. Does the SS/FG forum need its own Foo subforum? FixedGearFoo? Do I need to start to moderate each post that comes in? Should I just close this whole forum down for a month?
    Maybe you should just ease up on the guidelines, as community standards in this forum are obviously a little more freewheeling when it comes to things like changing the subject, verbal jousting, and things that may seem off-topic. I really doubt that the world will end if people are allowed to vent about h*****rs, plan pub crawls, or swap the occasional pie recipe in the forum. This isn't Recreational and Family, obviously; and on the other hand, the odd bit of trash-talking that you see here is nothing like the flaming you see day in and day out in Advocacy and Safety every time somebody mentions V******** C******.

    For the same reasons, I vote no on FixedGearFoo. Fixed Gear embraces foo. Cradles it, you might say. Besides, we don't want to offend the differently hubbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fixer
    Shut it down.
    Don't read it. Problem solved.

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    Shut it down
    I've been here since 2004? I've never felt this old before.

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    what are you guys crazy? I don't sit at a desk all day long but what the hell will you guys do when this shuts down? careful what you request...
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    *Reads rules* .. noted.

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    foo might be a good idea.

    i'm as guilty of breaking the rules as anybody else, but i'd be pretty bummed if this got shut down. mixed in with the silliness there is plenty of good information, and a pretty strong community as well.

    i'll keep a leash on it.

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    Wow, I never knew there were rules!!!

    Why does there have to be rules? I think that is what makes this forum so interesting. I am able to sift through the BS I do not want and respond to the tidbits that interest me.

    I would try total anarchy for a while and if that doesn't work, moderate away!!!

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    WK, pay only would be a terrible idea. there's a reason i don't have a red star next to my name--cause i can't afford it, and not because all my money is going to beer and bike parts either.
    the hipster myth.

    i practice vagabondery.

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