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    bent steel dropout

    i have a tiny bend to one of my drop outs. it's so small that posting a photo would be useless. i know its bent cuz i dropped it and then noticed the tiny difference. does this matter? and if so, can it be fixed? my concern is that the wheel will be unaligned.

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    Use a crscent wrench and bend it back.

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    My Pake came with a slightly bent drop.
    I just bent it back with a crescent wrench.
    No problems yet.

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    ah, good ol steel. hyperrevue have you posted a pic of your pake yet? i have yet to see one built up.

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    what about a drop out where the opening at the end seems opened up more than it should be? in other words, instead of being like = it is more like >? rear-facing track ends, of course.....
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    I assume that could bent back too if it was bent into that shape and not ground.
    Never done it before, but could probably do it with zip ties and a big pair of pliers.
    Put a rag around the dropout put the pliers on the dropout and then tie the zip ties (or rope or whatever) through the rear triangle and the pliers so it prevents them from slipping off. Then gently squeeze the hell out of them and make side to side corrections in a vice and alignment tools (those popsicle cone things) afterwards if needed.

    However, if some fool ground away material to accomodate some obscure axle then bending won't work.
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    sorry, i am having trouble visualizing what you just said 46x17... is that a solution for my bent drop out or for ones mentioned above? it seems like it'd work for my problem too... but i am just having touble with my thinking-parts today and cant make sense of anything in this world. thnx
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    Quote Originally Posted by drac_vamp
    sorry, i am having trouble visualizing what you just said 46x17... is that a solution for my bent drop out or for ones mentioned above? it seems like it'd work for my problem too... but i am just having touble with my thinking-parts today and cant make sense of anything in this world. thnx
    It is specifically for your problem.

    Let me try again. Picture your dropout with its mouth wide open and you wish to shut it some right?
    You will need some big pliers that can clamp over the dropouts kind of like <>. The problem will be that the pliers will slip off of your dropout because it is rounded (the dropout), so you will need something to hold teh pliers in place while exerting force to shut the yawning dropout. Use a zip tie or rope for this and tie it so that the pliers don't slip off.
    As this procedure might bend the dropouts side to side a little too you might have to realign them afterwards with some standard aligning tools.
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    woo, thanks. sorry! i swear to god, i got two degrees in english literature and today i am not making sense of simple instructions. the updated ones are perfect! ("yawning dropouts"?!? that's poetry!)

    thanks much for your help. i do believe you hipped me to a fix for a slightly misalligned fork in the past (2 or 3 weeks ag). thanks for that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drac_vamp
    woo, thanks. sorry! i swear to god, i got two degrees in english literature and today i am not making sense of simple instructions. the updated ones are perfect! ("yawning dropouts"?!? that's poetry!)

    thanks much for your help. i do believe you hipped me to a fix for a slightly misalligned fork in the past (2 or 3 weeks ag). thanks for that as well.
    No worries, with German being my first language I tend to make somewhat akward sentences every once in a while. Lit major here too . Yeah the fork was me (or should I say I?).
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    either / or. with german your sentences should be -- and probably are -- constructed perfectly. its my/our stupid english rules and non-logic that muddle them all up when we read. in german -- so far as my studies are concerned -- there is perfect pitch and clarity in sentence structure and execution of language. i think i just read your response and didn't logically apply it to my question, and i thought it was an answer to someone else's question. anyhow, thanks again for the help. should we pass on market or something, hail me to the sidewalk and i will happily buy you at least 2 beers. blue chesini or sometimes a fuscia maruishi.
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    A great imitation of a German sentence!
    I once had to do a translation of a Heinrich Heine (sentence stretching Ninja) text from German into English - it was terrible.

    Also, glad I could help! I'll hit you up for some beer the next morning we pass on Market.
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    oh man, did i imitate a german sentence? didn't mean to!

    yeah, beer for sure. beers all around for that matter. its almost christmas and all.

    also: soren k all the way!
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    I was referring to the inserted text between the dashes. We even have a word for that is "Einschub" or "eingeschobener Satz" = inserted sentence. Then again we have a word for everything since compounds are considered hip.

    like "fixedgear hub bearing press" = Starrlaufnabenlagerpresse
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    thats why i love german. its so expansive, right? like you can make these mega long sentences. but then its also so condensed. like these 50 letter words that do the job of 5 or 6 individual words. it's amazing, really.

    hey, keep up the german linguistic lessons, and you'll be getting a six pack. or 2 or 3! thanks for the lesson.
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    Kinda lacking the umlauts on this keyboard for the full effect, plus we are ruining the thread or, as we would say in Zurich Switzerland: "mer versiaechaet di ganz huaerae diskussion mit eusaem gschnurr ueber duetschi Linguistik."

    Also, Weihenstephaner is wonderful German beer with close to a 1000 years of business history. Going to grab one of these now. Later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nine
    i have a tiny bend to one of my drop outs. it's so small that posting a photo would be useless. i know its bent cuz i dropped it and then noticed the tiny difference. does this matter? and if so, can it be fixed? my concern is that the wheel will be unaligned.


    If you want to take it in to a shop, see Mike at Bicycle Station.
    He fixed a drastic bend for me once. Fixed it but good.
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    a claw hammer (or ball peen) and a piece of pipe (1 ft +). you can hold one end of the pipe in your hand and the other resting on something rigid (i.e. a fire hydrant). Rest what you want to bend out on the curve of the pipe with the location of where you want to bend and the direction you want the bend to occure on the highests spot on the pipe and along the direction of the pipe. HIT the object to be bent exactly on this spot with the face of the hammer. repeat until you are satisfied. Do not hit on either side of the pipe, hit on TOP of the pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nine
    ah, good ol steel. hyperrevue have you posted a pic of your pake yet? i have yet to see one built up.
    I did a bit back.
    But I'll do it again!
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    I've seen this quite a bit all over, but never bothered to ask until now. Why does everyone put like some kind of material on the top tube near the handlebars? I've also seen it for the lower tube. Sorry for being a newb.

    Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka12na
    I've seen this quite a bit all over, but never bothered to ask until now. Why does everyone put like some kind of material on the top tube near the handlebars? I've also seen it for the lower tube. Sorry for being a newb.

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    I do it so:
    a) the handlebars wont swing and chip the top tube and
    b) whatever I lock it to wont chip the top tube

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    What a fast reply! Thanks for the info.

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    wow, pake looks nice. did you convert the stem or was it already threaded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nine
    wow, pake looks nice. did you convert the stem or was it already threaded?
    It looks like one of those straight blade forks from Bike Works.

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    Grunk is correct.
    It came with a 1inch threadless fork but I used that on my Pista.
    As seen here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...26#post1896626

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