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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 12-10-05, 04:17 PM   #1
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torx.

I just posted this elsewhere in the world as well, but I figured I'd throw it on here and see if anyone knows anything about it.

I want to make my bike so I'm not QUITE so paranoid about locking it up. I want to replace as many bolts as possible with Torx or something like it (ttp://www.brycefastener.com/keyedlokmach.htm). Anyone have any ideas on where to get a listing of bicycle threadings so i can specify them? I'm gonna post this in the mechanic's forum as well and see if I get any nibbles. I really like the Bryce system, as they're stainless AND a unique tool is required.
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Kidding aside, I'd be paranoid living in Little Village too. Word on the street is that the LK's are getting into massive bike thefts, right after they're done w/ mortage fraud.

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Kidding aside, I'd be paranoid living in Little Village too. Word on the street is that the LK's are getting into massive bike thefts, right after they're done w/ mortage fraud.

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I worry less here than I do in Wicker Park where I work.
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You got a point!

And I'm very paranoid, I lot my stuff up at home. In my house!

Hell, take my TV. I'm keeping my bike!
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Old 12-11-05, 11:36 AM   #5
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Find some of these http://www.pitlock.de/en/

They do locking track nuts, qr skewers, seatpost bolts, brake bolts, drop out bolts and ahead bolts. Definitely worth the money. Never used anything but their locking skewers but they work damn well.

Hard to find in the states, but a lot of folks have ordered them from Europe.
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FWIW, you can unscrew torx with a hex wrench or a flat-blade screwdriver. You might want to look into tamper-proof screws with the pins and special bits. You can make your own bit with a drill press, but they guarantee you can't get them off without the right bit.

http://www.hudsonfasteners.com/security.htm

Of course, you can't replace a quill bolt with one of these, so you'd need a threadless stem.

If you take the bolts you want to replace down to the local hardware store, they can help you find threading that matches. The threading can change, depending on the manufacturer of your parts.
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I'm 99% sure the book 'Zinn and the Art of Road Bike Maintenance' has a listing of threadings in the back.
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How interested would people be in a system like this?


How much would you pay?

The bottom line is that the company might be interested in actually producing something like this if there was enough of a market for it.
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I'm interested, not sure how much i would pay. More than standard replacements, for sure; whats to keep theives from ordering the bits/tools themselves?
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I'm interested, not sure how much i would pay. More than standard replacements, for sure; whats to keep theives from ordering the bits/tools themselves?
I don't wanna blanket statement all thieves, but i suspect many thieves are, well, idiots.
Seems they have little chance figuring out which company makes the correct proprietary tool, especially if it looks quite different from the standard security bolt such as torx.
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you can get most torx bolts off with an equivilent sized hex key. Why not do the solder/ ballbearing & glue idea instead?
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you can get most torx bolts off with an equivilent sized hex key. Why not do the solder/ ballbearing & glue idea instead?

actually, if you follow the link, you'll see that I'm not talking about Torx anymore, but something FAR superior. Something which you cannot buy the tool for unless you're the registered owner of the bolt-set.
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I'm interested, not sure how much i would pay. More than standard replacements, for sure; whats to keep theives from ordering the bits/tools themselves?

They're all unique. There are LOTS of possible combinations.
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This sounds like the greates plan ever conceived to piss off the mechanic at your shop. But then again I'm assumming you guys would do your own repairs if you're going to this much of a bother.
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I don't wanna blanket statement all thieves, but i suspect many thieves are, well, idiots.
Unfortunately, many thieves are not idiots! They are people who want the same stuff you have but do not want to work for it. So they figure out ways to steal it from you, and they have friends who will teach them how.
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i dont want to work the stuff either! instant gratification i tell you. yeah, i dont know what happened to my post about stolen components (when a theif couldnt/didnt steal the whole bicycle), but it was a good one. yeah there is more than one kind of bike theif.

and on the note of registered bolt-set owner, good idea, i'm interested treechunk; let us know what happens.
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