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Old 12-19-05, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by worker4youth
I always hand-tighten my pedals, never more. it will tighten as you pedal, so there is no need to put 5000 ft-lbs of torque on it with a pedal wrench. I've never had a problem using this method. Next time, just hand-tighten, and when you take it off, all you'll need is a small hex tool. In fact, I don't even own a pedal wrench.

Also, remember, to untighten it's "down toward the rear wheel"
anyone else just handtighten? sure, you tighten as you pedal (forward), but what about resisting the pedals and skidding?
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I never know how tight to tighten parts. I think I just tightened the pedals too hard when I put it on last time. What about crankarm bolts and stem bolt? or seat bolts? I have a bad habit of cranking down till it can't really tighten anymore. I sprayed some wd40 on it and will let it sit for a bit.
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take the crankarm off, put the pedal nut in a vice, put a cheater bar on the crankarm, profit.
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Originally Posted by biff
take the crankarm off, put the pedal nut in a vice, put a cheater bar on the crankarm, profit.
Ding ding ding!

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Originally Posted by habitus
anyone else just handtighten? sure, you tighten as you pedal (forward), but what about resisting the pedals and skidding?
Sometimes hand tightened pedals will loosen up. Not a good idea. Even on freewheel bikes.
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Old 12-19-05, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Sometimes hand tightened pedals will loosen up. Not a good idea. Even on freewheel bikes.
yeah, i didn't think so. i never handtighten, and recently have been using my new torque wrench to tighten pretty much all bolts.
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so how tight should pedals be?
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Originally Posted by biff
take the crankarm off, put the pedal nut in a vice, put a cheater bar on the crankarm, profit.
Many, if not most, pedal nuts are blocked by the pedal, and can not be grabbed by a vice.

One would need to make something to grab the pedal nut, Just flat stock of the right thickness would do it. It still may not grab as well as the wrench. It depends on how hard the stock is, the wrench is probably much harder.
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Originally Posted by habitus
yeah, i didn't think so. i never handtighten, and recently have been using my new torque wrench to tighten pretty much all bolts.
Tell me about your torque wrench? What range? How much? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Tell me about your torque wrench? What range? How much? Thanks.
it's this one. park tools. 50 ft-lbs range. it's been very useful, and helped me realize how much i was undertightening most bolts.
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Originally Posted by wangster
so how tight should pedals be?
the little piece of paper that came with my miche cranks says "when fitting the pedal spindle we recommend a torque wrench setting of 44.1 N" (~30 ft-lbs).
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just use a good wrench.unscrew in opposite direction of pedaling...
or drill thru it
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if it fits use a pipe wrench you should be able to grab the spindle.
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Originally Posted by mattman
if it fits use a pipe wrench you should be able to grab the spindle.

thats last resort. it ain't budging so I'm hoping mike over at bicycle station has some trick up his sleeves on how to take them off without destroying them, they still have a lot of life left in them. I love those cranks too so I don't want those destroyed either. This is quite a dilemma...
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Old 12-20-05, 02:42 PM
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took it to the lbs this morning and mike got it off in no time... I guess it was all about leverage. I just didn't want to screw it up and fukit up. He didn't charge me anything cuz it was so quick.
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very good. that red bike is a looker.
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Originally Posted by habitus
it's this one. park tools. 50 ft-lbs range. it's been very useful, and helped me realize how much i was undertightening most bolts.
Thanks. I may pick one up after the holidays.
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Fantastico, I'm glad everything worked out for ya
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