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Old 12-21-05, 09:34 AM   #1
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all o yall who work for MTA

try to extend this strike till next friday...would be a crazy CM in nyc
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Old 12-21-05, 09:52 AM   #2
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On an equally as selfish note, please don't. I don't want to have to reschedule my trip.
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Old 12-21-05, 10:42 AM   #3
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Man #1: ...****! Why did they have to strike during the winter? Right before the holidays, no less.

Man #2: Well, the transit guys need to get paid more and they need other things that I'm not too clear about.

Man #3: **** 'em! I don't give a **** what their problems are! Everybody has problems, not just them! They want more money? Well, then they should have thought about that before dropping out of high school! Bunch of lazy ****ing losers!

Man #4: Hey, I work for the MTA.

Man #3: Well, then: **** you, too!

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i bet man #3 voted for bloomberg
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Old 12-21-05, 11:10 AM   #5
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Thanks for posting that link turd. That website is hilarious!
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Old 12-21-05, 01:53 PM   #6
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Drunk guy: Just replace them with 10 lines of code: "If subway station, stop. Otherwise, go."

Suit: We tried to get a cab to take us three blocks. He wouldn't.

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to man#3, you would be shocked if you knew just how many college grads drive buses/trains. Repubican party is pure scum!!
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"MTA workers earn between $47,000 and $55,000 annually". they say: *** you new yorkers. i hate those fckers. i say fire their asses.
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people have a right to strike if they're not content with their working conditions... but the MTA should also have the right to get rid of the TWU in favor of people who would love a $30,000 year job.

I do have to say that the TWU has huge BALLS!! imagine what someone with balls that large could accomplish if they wanted to do something worthwhile.
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On the same token, I say greedy corporations and filthy riches scheming unjustified wars that burdens huge expense and lives on us, all of them should be jailed.

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All I know is that the riding has been a damned fine pleasure the last couple of days. What a way to make a triumphant (albeit temporary) return to nyc.
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personally, i support almost any working class struggle like this. whether their demands are lavish or not, i hope they win.

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"MTA workers earn between $47,000 and $55,000 annually". they say: *** you new yorkers. i hate those fckers. i say fire their asses.
"This is the crabs in the barrel syndrome that we are all familiar with. Rather than supporting those trying to break the sides of the barrel, there are those of us who, actually in despair, are so worn down that we would rather enjoy the company of others in misery than take a stand on the right side of an issue."
-http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1221-27.htm
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"This is the crabs in the barrel syndrome that we are all familiar with. Rather than supporting those trying to break the sides of the barrel, there are those of us who, actually in despair, are so worn down that we would rather enjoy the company of others in misery than take a stand on the right side of an issue."
-http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1221-27.htm
I had to deal with some of that attitude when my union got locked out a few years ago. The idea seemed to be, "I get screwed on my wages and benefits, so you guys should get screwed as well."
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Prefaced by saying that I'm currently all for chaos, and the more the better.

From the World Socialist Website
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The base salary of a bus operator is $42,450, and that of a train operator is $45,167. Besides laboring under conditions that are extremely taxing mentally and physically, these workers have enormous responsibility for the safety of the riding public. Yet they earn barely one-fifth of the average salary being made on Wall Street, and less than a third of what newly hired attorneys are earning in the city' major law firms.
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A subway-train operator starts at $52,644 a year, more than double the starting salaries of police officers, fire fighters, and trash collectors.
Even with my deep affection for the disorded caused by this strike, I'm left wondering exactly what these guys are doing to even come close to deserving so much money. Maybe I'm just missing out on some huge aspect of it while I sit in my fat cat house shivering my ass off cuz I can't afford no heat.

If I were giving away the money though, transit workers wouldn't even be close to first inline. The guys making half what they do who are (supposed) to be there to prevent my ass from getting shot and keep my house from burning down, and pick up my used porno mags, adult diapers, and empty cans of cheez wiz and pbr, they're the ones who I think ought to be getting my dime first.

Hell, maybe they deserve the pay jack cuz they got the balls to demand it and actually strike, and the firefighters, police, and trashmen should hop inline too. Really stick one to the holiday season.

Happy fcking Chanukah!
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See what I mean?
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The base salary of a bus operator is $42,450, and that of a train operator is $45,167. Besides laboring under conditions that are extremely taxing mentally and physically, these workers have enormous responsibility for the safety of the riding public. Yet they earn barely one-fifth of the average salary being made on Wall Street, and less than a third of what newly hired attorneys are earning in the city' major law firms.
That's just hilarious because it's so stupid.
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Maybe they earn less than attorneys at major law firms because they are frinckin' drivers? LOL
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Most of you guys seem to be like Man #3. Where I live and in most european cities people generally supports workers figthing for better wages. I hope they win.
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They may or may not be fair demands, but launching a big all-out strike before Christmas in the freezing cold that costs the city hundreds of millions of dollars is ****ing ****ty.
Anyway, I don't know the situation there, just came back to post this gem from a year or so ago, when there was a metro strike in London. Dunno if you people know it, but the NYers who haven't heard it might find it funny:

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They may or may not be fair demands, but launching a big all-out strike before Christmas in the freezing cold that costs the city hundreds of millions of dollars is ****ing ****ty.
You're right: they should have just trusted the MTA, Pataki and Bloomberg to act in the spirit of the Yuletide season and quit trying to impose givebacks and two-tiered pension systems on the workers. We all know that there's something in the air at Christmas that causes employers' hearts to swell, Grinch-like, and compels them to begin treating their workers fairly. And in this case, the $1,000,000,000 MTA surplus would have come in handy for those spontaneous acts of goodwill and fair play.

But noooo, they had to go and actually fight for a fair contract. Don't they know that's un-American? Or, at the very least, un-Christmassy? Will nobody speak up for poor old Christmas? Stop the War On Christmas!
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I've moved around a lot in my adult life, and without fail, cities that have a strong union presence have higher wages and better working conditions. It's no secret.
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Prefaced by saying that I'm currently all for chaos, and the more the better.

From the World Socialist Website


From an editorial in the NY Sun


Even with my deep affection for the disorded caused by this strike, I'm left wondering exactly what these guys are doing to even come close to deserving so much money. Maybe I'm just missing out on some huge aspect of it while I sit in my fat cat house shivering my ass off cuz I can't afford no heat.

If I were giving away the money though, transit workers wouldn't even be close to first inline. The guys making half what they do who are (supposed) to be there to prevent my ass from getting shot and keep my house from burning down, and pick up my used porno mags, adult diapers, and empty cans of cheez wiz and pbr, they're the ones who I think ought to be getting my dime first.

Hell, maybe they deserve the pay jack cuz they got the balls to demand it and actually strike, and the firefighters, police, and trashmen should hop inline too. Really stick one to the holiday season.

Happy fcking Chanukah!

read this:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ne...,3693051.story

and then start poking around...you'll notice that the unions representing the police, fire, and sanitation workers have offered at least tacit support for the transit strike, largely 'cause their own unions have been stripped of power by agreeing to multi-tiered contracts (giving younger workers a worse break than those with seniority); the very kind of deal the TWU is trying to avoid, since it has no other purpose than TO break unions. It's not about the dollar figures for salary, or pensions, in the end -- why do you think the MTA, after basically getting to an agreement Monday night with the TWU on almost every point, suddenly decided to introduce a clause asking that new hires contribute a greater percentage of wages to the pension fund than current employees? A clause that would generate only insignificant savings? Think about it.
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MTA, the mayor, and the governor are the primary culprits in violation of the Taylor law...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/jgonzalez/
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