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Old 12-21-05, 02:16 PM   #1
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IRO MarkV or Specialized Langster?

So i need to get a new bike. It is now between the IRO MarkV and the Specialized Langster. What do you all thinki should get? Which is better/more reliable? and Why?
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Old 12-21-05, 02:25 PM   #2
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IRO Mark V or Specialized Langster '05
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Old 12-21-05, 02:34 PM   #3
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steel vs aluminum. most people have a very firm preference. it's rarely a toss-up.
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Old 12-21-05, 02:45 PM   #4
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everyone on here loves IRO's including me, tony (owner) is an amazing guy and has amazing customer service... also, the majority of people on here will tell you steel is the way to go they all have very understandable explenations..

IRO, built like a tank, good customer service, frame replacement deal...

when it comes down to it, your the one who will have to ride it every day..
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Go with the langster...you're obviously not worthy to ride the IRO

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wow! what an original question.
i can't believe nobody has asked this before
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Old 12-21-05, 03:52 PM   #7
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all kiding aside, i just got an iro angus and i love it, i know a guy who rides a langster and he loves it.
whatever you get LOVE it HA
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Thanks guys, with the exception of Sr. Sarcasim. The deal i was gonna get for the Langster fell through b/c they only had a 52 in stock. So 300 dollars more/later i ordered the IRO Mark V all black. Should be here in a week.....im so pumped.
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Old 12-23-05, 12:52 PM   #9
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i just got an iro and it's awesome. i test rode a langster and didn't think it was anything special, but i've never owned an aluminum frame before. it's kind of a personal preference thing, but if you search back in the forums, pretty much everyone will reccomend iro based on their customer service alone. also, if you're into aluminum, iro also has the jamie roy which i've heard good things about.
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i commute 28 miles a day on a jamie roy. get the iro.
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Please be sure that there is a brake on your new bike.
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these threads used to make me tear up because they're so ****ing dumb, but now, after 8 ****ing million of them, my ducts are dry. jesus h christ.
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these threads used to make me tear up because they're so ****ing dumb, but now, after 8 ****ing million of them, my ducts are dry. jesus h christ.
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these threads used to make me tear up because they're so ****ing dumb, but now, after 8 ****ing million of them, my ducts are dry. jesus h christ.
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I'd get the IRO simply because Tony is a great guy selling good product. What does Specialized do? They take a bike with an alright frame but crappy parts and jack up the prices year after year with negligible upgrades. As if they weren't making enough money using Chinese labor.

I think Sheldon Brown said that aluminum Taiwanese frames cost around $8 each. Specialized can eat my hummus encrusted ****!
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Old 12-24-05, 12:06 AM   #16
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It would be nice to have some stickied permanent threads that were a merge of the previous threads regarding

Mark V vs Angus vs Jamie Roy vs Pista vs Langster vs Rush vs Sputnik

brake vs brakeless

toe clips vs clipless

skid tips

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Old 12-24-05, 02:37 AM   #17
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It would be nice to have some stickied permanent threads that were a merge of the previous threads regarding

Mark V vs Angus vs Jamie Roy vs Pista vs Langster vs Rush vs Sputnik

brake vs brakeless

toe clips vs clipless

skid tips

trackstand tips
Heck, do that and you could just close this whole forum!
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I'd get the IRO simply because Tony is a great guy selling good product. What does Specialized do? They take a bike with an alright frame but crappy parts and jack up the prices year after year with negligible upgrades. As if they weren't making enough money using Chinese labor.

I think Sheldon Brown said that aluminum Taiwanese frames cost around $8 each. Specialized can eat my hummus encrusted ****!
I maybe wrong, but isn't Tony and practically all of Corporate America doing the same thing, using cheap labor from China, Taiwan, and other Asian and third world countries to fatten their bank accounts?
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Tony seems like a standup guy with a good business sense(excellent customer service). I wonder how the guy got started. Any background info on him and his story? does he actually ride bikes?
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It's always good to see a smaller independent business owner compete with the bigger companies like Specialized, Jamis, Bianchi.
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I maybe wrong, but isn't Tony and practically all of Corporate America doing the same thing, using cheap labor from China, Taiwan, and other Asian and third world countries to fatten their bank accounts?
Aye. But he charges around $250 for a frame. Compare that to Surly or Kogswell.
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I'd get the IRO simply because Tony is a great guy selling good product. What does Specialized do? They take a bike with an alright frame but crappy parts and jack up the prices year after year with negligible upgrades. As if they weren't making enough money using Chinese labor.

I think Sheldon Brown said that aluminum Taiwanese frames cost around $8 each. Specialized can eat my hummus encrusted ****!
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Aye. But he charges around $250 for a frame. Compare that to Surly or Kogswell.
Thanks, I will.

Kogswell frames are lugged and the fork is brazed with real a crown.

Our frames and forks cost more when they leave the shop in Taiwan. I know that because Tony and I both get frames from the same shop. I know what Tony pays and he knows what I pay.

And our markup is the same or less than IRO's.

And we throw in a headset.
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Thanks, I will.

Kogswell frames are lugged and the fork is brazed with real a crown.

Our frames and forks cost more when they leave the shop in Taiwan. I know that because Tony and I both get frames from the same shop. I know what Tony pays and he knows what I pay.

And our markup is the same or less than IRO's.

And we throw in a headset.
Not to hijack or anything, but how's the magic 9sp flip-flop hub coming along? I know a guy that could use one.
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