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Old 12-21-05, 07:00 PM   #1
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newbie fixie question

So currently i'm riding single speed, in the next few days im going to convert to a flip flop hub. My question is: what's the deal with a lock ring, how does it work and do i need one? Is there anything else i should be aware of before i do this conversion?

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Old 12-21-05, 07:02 PM   #2
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who needs a lock ring when you have a welder.
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Old 12-21-05, 07:03 PM   #3
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i dont have a welder...
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i dont have a welder...
He's kidding, if you look at a fixed hub, you'll see 2 different sets of threads, one for the cog and one for the lock ring, YES, you will need a lock ring. If you don't have one the cog would be able to unthread it's self when you resist pedaling or skid.

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Old 12-21-05, 07:06 PM   #5
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go with the lock ring, examples are : surly, dura ace, campy...
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Make sure your flip flop hub has a side for a lockring. A lockring will hold your cog on when you are applying backpressure. A track hub will have 2 types of threads, one for the cog and a set of counter rotating threads for a lockring.
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Old 12-21-05, 07:08 PM   #7
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read this http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/wheels1.html (second bullet)
then read everyhing here http://sheldonbrown.com/fixed/index.html
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follow that up with a search on the terms "bumbike" and "suicide wheel"
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awesome. thanks everybody... now i wont die when i'm biking and decide to stop!
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Also make sure you have at least a front brake.
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Old 12-21-05, 07:27 PM   #11
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Also make sure you have at least a front brake.
oh hell yeah. Im buying a cheapo hub/wheel because im broke, and the last thing i want is for the hub to burst while riding in traffic brakeless. that'd be some bad news...
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Old 12-21-05, 07:30 PM   #12
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My god, I am <b>SO IMPRESSED</b> with the pretty much attitude-free responses you all gave this question..

Not that snarky comments aren't fun to read/chortle at sometimes..
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Old 12-21-05, 07:39 PM   #13
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My god, I am <b>SO IMPRESSED</b> with the pretty much attitude-free responses you all gave this question..

Not that snarky comments aren't fun to read/chortle at sometimes..
There's a few differences here from most of the times people ask about lockrings:

1) The poster admitted lack of knowledge and honestly wanted an answer.
2) They asked before putting together a suicide hub or other unsafe hub.
3) They actually seem like they're going to use the advice/links here to learn more on their own.

Anyways...
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So currently i'm riding single speed, in the next few days im going to convert to a flip flop hub. My question is: what's the deal with a lock ring, how does it work and do i need one? Is there anything else i should be aware of before i do this conversion?

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YOU SHOULD NOT BE RIDING FIXED GEAR IF DON'T KNOW WHAT A LOCKRING IS FOR. do some research. sorry to give you a hard time. you better know how to use toe clips too. there are too many people going fixed who know nothing. sorry
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oh hell yeah. Im buying a cheapo hub/wheel because im broke, and the last thing i want is for the hub to burst while riding in traffic brakeless. that'd be some bad news...
PLEASE, don't go fixed, you probably don't even know why you want to go brakeless. that's just dumb. you haven't even started riding fixed.
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he's doing research. he's currently riding ss. he's asking before switching. get over it
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and he said clearly he's planning to run a brake
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PLEASE, don't go fixed, you probably don't even know why you want to go brakeless. that's just dumb. you haven't even started riding fixed.
okay what? I know why people go brakeless. I ride with toe clips as it is. I dont plan on going brakeless ever. but thats just me. I understand fixed gears, im just RESEARCHING and trying to understand the mechanics before i start riding.
I think my approach of asking for adive is better than people who dont research and for example, buy their bike pre assembled and dont even know what a gear ratio is. cut me some slack dude. im trying.
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what's up with ppl putting newbies down who are honestly just INSPIRED by this clean, mean machine that we all ride....

not like they're gonna degrade the sport...welcom them!

Fixed gear riding is fun, and feel free to ask me any question warrior.
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Please ignore the dickface. He's probably angry because someone called him a hipster.

Another thing- A good quality flip/flop rear wheel that won't cost too much is an IRO rear wheel.

Get a fix/fix hub, that way you can run two fixed cogs or freewheels, or any combination therof.

www.irocycle.com
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Please ignore the dickface. He's probably angry because someone called him a hipster.

Another thing- A good quality flip/flop rear wheel that won't cost too much is an IRO rear wheel.
www.irocycle.com
haha, well, i'd be pissed if someone called me a hipster too...
IRO hubs and deep v's are my plan for when I have enough money and get comfortable riding fixed.
thanks
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Get a fix/fix hub, that way you can run two fixed cogs or freewheels, or any combination therof.
Hey - that's my line!

I would have said it before, but I misread the first post, and thought he said 'I'm converting my flip-flop hub to a fixed' not 'I'm converting to a flip-flop hub.'

Oops.
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don't go with the cheapest wheel set that you can buy, just because you wanna save money. You'll regret the $100 that you spent when you strip the threads on your suzue basic. seriously though. Go with the formula's and deep v's. you'll regret it if you go with the suzue wheels when you start trying to skid. I did
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Please ignore the dickface. He's probably angry because someone called him a hipster.
ha!
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Get a fix/fix hub, that way you can run two fixed cogs or freewheels, or any combination therof.
I can't test this myself cuz I have neither a free threaded hub nor a freewheel, but do most freewheels fit on a fixed hub w/o part of their threads hanging off? I never really knew the answer to this, but would like to be able to tell people with all confidence to follow your advice, knowing that they someday might want to run a freewheel.
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