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Old 01-13-06, 12:16 PM   #1
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Paint job prices?

I'm looking to get a frame painted. I'm curious what other people have paid for single colour paintwork (ie, not powdercoating) so I can judge if I'm getting hosed or not.

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Old 01-13-06, 01:17 PM   #2
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santana in philly does auto paint. i think prices start at 125 or something.
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Old 01-13-06, 02:31 PM   #3
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PC is best! but a good price i think $1.
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Old 01-13-06, 02:34 PM   #5
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I think I'm sending my gios over to cyclart when I get my replacement
decals in. It's going to run ~ $325. That poor cyclops cat!
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Old 01-13-06, 02:54 PM   #7
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I payed 80$cdn for a a pint of 3part automotive paint.... base colour, hardener and reducer and a pint of clear coat.... took it to the bodyshop across the road along with a case of Kieth's and that was it...oh, and that was to have it blasted too....
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$325 for a complete restoration, including shipping back and forth.
Not the cheapest, but I've seen their work and they do an awesome job.
I've done it before to lesser steeds, but no way is my Gios getting a rattlecan job.
Mcatano, what were you quoted?
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Old 01-13-06, 03:30 PM   #9
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$100cdn (taxes in) for primer, one Imron colour, and clear coat (stripping/blasting not included) seems to be the going rate at the autobody places I called that would actually do it. Powdercating is less ($85+tax, includes media blasting) but (IMO) looks poopy.
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Old 01-13-06, 03:46 PM   #10
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WHy is powder-coating cheaper? I was under the impression it was a harder finish. can someone explain to me the exact difference?
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Old 01-13-06, 07:15 PM   #11
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$175 for a single color (frame + fork) by Dave Sem. His work is amazing.
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Old 01-13-06, 10:45 PM   #12
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It's cheaper because there are less steps. Just blast, clean, coat, bake. Where as paint adds at least 2 or 3 more steps. And you're right about it being a harder finish. Paint is like colored glue...it mearly dries on to the metal whereas the powder coat actually bonds to the metal.
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So why is it seen as "not as good"? does it not create as nice of a finish? I have heard makes lug shorelines look not as prominent because it is thicker... true?
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It is very possible that powder coat goes on thicker, but I can't say for sure.
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It is very possible that powder coat goes on thicker, but I can't say for sure.
It most definitely does. The very best powder coat done by Spectrum ($$$) still hides shorelines. Here's a good comparison.

Powder by Spectrum

Wet paint by Dave Sem
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I used to use Sem. His artistic impression is great, second to none. However, I found that every bike he painted for me chipped way to easily. Apparently, he doesnt cure between coats which causes the problem. Least thats what other painters have told me on why a frame chips so easily.

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Interesting. I'll have to keep an eye out for that. Who do you use now?
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Old 02-22-06, 12:55 PM   #17
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$325. for paint,NEVA!
I'm right there with ya!
Why setle for cheap when I can paint your bike with my flagship "Carribean Carnival" paint scheme!

ONLY $3,995.00 (and to think I put one on a $1,000 frame, fork & stem!)

As soon as I have a properly sized digital pic, I'll post it.

When will you be sending your frame?

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$300 sandblast & paint. beautiful.
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Old 02-22-06, 01:42 PM   #19
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I am giving Cheakas a shot and Jim Allen in SoCal. ( Allen does Della Santa)

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jim allen used to do california masi as well...
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got my wife's bike powdercoated in new hampshire for $125
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suppose one wanted to restore a 1970s Chesini, fully and completely, up to it's original factory appearance... how might one track down the decals for this project? not just the Chesini logo decals, but also the specific and impossible to find little decal that states something about the bike winning some award in 1973 "Bici d'Oro - yada yada yada"? i'd imagine i'd spend half of my life tracking down originals of this particular decal, can it be recreated somehow? can all decals be recreated somehow?

next question, same Chesini: it is fully chromed, with a strange transluscent coating of electric blue that is transparent and metallic looking... it's not quite paint. what is it? what's it cost to re-do? who even restores such special creatures? and, most importantly, how much would i be shelling out to do this -- decals and all?
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suppose one wanted to restore a 1970s Chesini, fully and completely, up to it's original factory appearance... how might one track down the decals for this project? not just the Chesini logo decals, but also the specific and impossible to find little decal that states something about the bike winning some award in 1973 "Bici d'Oro - yada yada yada"? i'd imagine i'd spend half of my life tracking down originals of this particular decal, can it be recreated somehow? can all decals be recreated somehow?

next question, same Chesini: it is fully chromed, with a strange transluscent coating of electric blue that is transparent and metallic looking... it's not quite paint. what is it? what's it cost to re-do? who even restores such special creatures? and, most importantly, how much would i be shelling out to do this -- decals and all?
Cyclart can reproduce decals if they're unavailable from the original manufacturer. I believe Spectrum does this too. Restoration is Cycarts specialty if I'm not mistaken. I would give them a call and see what they say. You might want to grab some Vaseline though, they ain't cheap. http://www.cyclart.com/
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yeah, i checked cyclart briefly. i got pretty disheartened when i saw all the figures. yikes!

i'm not ready for a restoration now, as the bike's cosmetic appearance still has approximately a decade of life still in it according to my standards. i just want to have a way out, should i ruin it a bit more. the thing deserves to be behind glass somewhere, maybe just for me though...
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suppose one wanted to restore a 1970s Chesini, fully and completely, up to it's original factory appearance... how might one track down the decals for this project? not just the Chesini logo decals, but also the specific and impossible to find little decal that states something about the bike winning some award in 1973 "Bici d'Oro - yada yada yada"? i'd imagine i'd spend half of my life tracking down originals of this particular decal, can it be recreated somehow? can all decals be recreated somehow?

next question, same Chesini: it is fully chromed, with a strange transluscent coating of electric blue that is transparent and metallic looking... it's not quite paint. what is it? what's it cost to re-do? who even restores such special creatures? and, most importantly, how much would i be shelling out to do this -- decals and all?
Dave Sem typically paints on all his logos. Check out this Rossin...all paint. I'm sure he could whip up something.
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thanks for the link! good idea.
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