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    Kinky Brooks bondage pics

    I just finished cutting and tieing my new B-17 Special. I decided to tie it with flaps underneath. The leather is stiffer than I expected, but I think it will lay down with a few miles on it. I may need to re-tie it once it relaxes into the new shape.
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    Looks awesome, matt. Now, if it only had a couple hundred miles on it...well, that'll come in time.

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    it looks great. nice work. it'll soften up and mold perfectly to you.

    i love the fact that the b-17 specials come with the big rivets like the more pricey models.

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    how broken in was that saddle before you cut it?

    looks sharp.

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    Thanks.

    The saddle is fresh out of the box. The bike it's going on is still without a few key parts like spokes and a seatpost bolt, so it won't be broken in for a few days more at least. I still need to bevel the edges, and treat the leather too.

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    are you planning on loosening the nut in the front, considering that you added tension? or do you think that it'll come out in the wash?

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    duder, looks bi!chin'! in all seriousness (cause i know salome's gonna get annoyed with me), what's the difference betwixt the b-17 narrow (which i straddle) and the b-17 special?

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    Quote Originally Posted by genericbikedude
    are you planning on loosening the nut in the front, considering that you added tension? or do you think that it'll come out in the wash?
    I don't believe adding tension across like I did should effect the longitudinal tension, but it should make for a stiffer feel, and reduce the hammock effect a bit. I don't know, but I beleve this is important since I removed som material from the sides. Theoretically this will be stiffer than a standard B-17, but WTF do I know about it, the closest I have to a Brooks in as ancient Wright that was broken in by someone else's ass decades before I rescued it from a free pile at a yard sale.

    I don't have the specs at hand, but I know the special has the same dimensions as the B-17 both are a few mm wider than the n. I probably would have prefered the n, but the price was right on this one, and I narrowed it up in the nose a bit anyway.

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    SICK!!
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    physics hertz.

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    Fresh! How long did the Chop and Tie Job take total?
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    maybe an hour and a half? I did it while watching a movie. Masking tape, a metal ruler, leather punch, and an medium duty exacto were all the tools I used.

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    Looks great Matt!
    I just did one too. I started to leave a flap to tie, but didn't like the profile. One can always drill holes and lace thru the sides if necessary. Yeah......a razor blade works fine. No need to bust out the grinder. A razor blade cuts cleanly and doesn't make that nasty hair burning smell like a grinder would when used on leather. Def NOT a vegan experience, for those so inclined.Finished off w/ 120 grit sandpaper, and actually smoother than the "factory" edge.
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    i'm all about using the ginsu knife i got at a state fair years ago to butcher brooks saddles. it takes 5 minutes.

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    Nice one Jasonsan

    I'm thinking the way to flatten down the flaps the way I want them is going to be to moisten them, and let them dry with a block of wood stuffed between the flaps and the rails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattface
    Nice one Jasonsan

    I'm thinking the way to flatten down the flaps the way I want them is going to be to moisten them, and let them dry with a block of wood stuffed between the flaps and the rails.
    Thanks...........you could also cut a small , "v'eed" line on the back of the flap to aid with the fold, like you do before folding cardboard.

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    cool saddles. i'm inspired to take the knife to mine.

    btw, nice avatar pic salome!

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    A little moisture, and a piece if 1x4 was just the ticket for flattening down the flaps. now it just needs some proofide, and a lot of intimate contact with my ass to work it to sweet perfection
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    1x4?

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    Say, i know that chopping Brooks has been done for decades. But i have a tiny bit of apprehension what the Chop Job might do for the durability. Anyone know of a Chopped Brooks that is decades old? Pictures even perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
    1x4?
    Standard lumber dimension. actually any scrap piece of 1 by whatever lumber would do the trick. The finished measurement of the 1" dimension is actually closer t 3/4", and anything about 3/4" thick could be crammed in there to hold the leather in place while it dries.

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    ohh. makes sense.

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    Perhaps this has been covered before [my apologies if so], but is it necessary to tie the saddle underneath? I assume that this may maintain some tension and keep it taught, but does anyone have any experience just chopping the edges off altogether?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-dong
    Perhaps this has been covered before [my apologies if so], but is it necessary to tie the saddle underneath? I assume that this may maintain some tension and keep it taught, but does anyone have any experience just chopping the edges off altogether?
    Most people do it that way. Tieing is generally added for stiffness with or without chopping, and it is the stiffening, and narrowing effect I'm going for.

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    I cut mine, going to tie it when I get a hold of a leather hole punch.

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    thats pretty cool. i never thought of customizing a brooks. i like the green immensely.

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