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Old 01-15-06, 03:26 AM   #1
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Sugino GiGas

What distinguishes the Sugino GiGas line from their 75 line? $500+ for a crankset or +$300+ for a chainring seems to insinuate that it's made from a superior grade material and machined to exacting standards. Hell the cogs are around $100. I'd like more information about what warrants such a premium as well as pictures.
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http://www2.odn.ne.jp/suginoltd/track_e.html

you want more info? Try google.
I doubt anyone here uses this stuff, unless they are Keirin racers (Tomity-san), store owners, or trust fund babies.
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Old 01-15-06, 06:47 AM   #3
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I think they are made of unobtanium, whereas my cranks are made of craptanium.
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Old 01-15-06, 07:16 AM   #4
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Beautiful polishing, teeth are individually shaped in part by hand finishing, surface hardened. They are absolutely gorgeous and the Gigas chainring is noticeably quieter than a Dura Ace chainring when I swap it out. I got a new 14T Gigas cog on eBay for $30 and it's pretty smooth as well but -- unless you value the weight of alloy over durability -- it's actually just about beat in finish and design by the new Phil Wood cogs.
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A gigas chainring was on a recent eBay purchase of mine. It is definitely quieter than the Sugino 75 series and mirror polished. A beautiful thing, but yeah - it is a lot of money for a chainring. I think with bike equipment more than just about anything else, you get what you pay for.
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The Gigas series stuff has (from what I have been told) a special coating, either sprayed on, or baked on, to make it have less friction ( kind of like a no stick cook serface on your pots and pans).
A big hit with the Keirin riders.

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I use Pam.

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Old 01-15-06, 04:48 PM   #7
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Don, that coating is the surface hardening. It's an electro-chemical dip followed by a heat treatment. It helps create the very smooth bright finish, but it comes out of the dip discolored so a buffing brings up the pretty cosmetics of the finished product. I don't think it really cuts down on chain wear, but it does resist perspiration oxidation spots a lot better than Dura Ace or Campy. The hand-shaping of the individual teeth actually just takes off the first metal to be worn off by the chain anyway, so it actually does last a good bit longer than other rings at a third the price. I wish they did a steel rear cog, because the alloy one is heat treated but still won't have enough longevity to justify the price. I put the one I got cheap on a Mavic disc and it only gets ridden on those wheels.
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I think they are made of unobtanium, whereas my cranks are made of craptanium.
awesome.
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http://www2.odn.ne.jp/suginoltd/track_e.html

you want more info? Try google.
I doubt anyone here uses this stuff, unless they are Keirin racers (Tomity-san), store owners, or trust fund babies.

I ride that ____ on my beater. We are not all posers like you.
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Don,

Correct, they only do an alloy one. It runs ultra smooth, but it doesn't last that long and if it's going on a Mavic disc anyway, I'm obviously not that concerned about weight. I'd rather have a piece of steel machined that well, which is pretty close to what the new Phil's are. Thanks for the clarification.
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I think they are made of unobtanium, whereas my cranks are made of craptanium.
LOL
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nice link 165 on the pamphlet
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I ride that ____ on my beater. We are not all posers like you.
HA. I ride that ____ on my 12-speed bicycle co-op conversion. My chainline is like a 45 degree angle, so I figured I need every bit of durability/quietness I can get.

It only cost 4 times what I spent on wheels, it was a no brainer.
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HA. I ride that ____ on my 12-speed bicycle co-op conversion. My chainline is like a 45 degree angle, so I figured I need every bit of durability/quietness I can get.

It only cost 4 times what I spent on wheels, it was a no brainer.

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HOLLAAAAAAAAA


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