Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 21 of 21
  1. #1
    Banned. teiaperigosa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    40th, up in the 30th
    Posts
    1,694
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    in light of all the threads on skidding these days (these days...lol)...

    the TeIaPeRiGoSa method to acheiving a skid [disclaimer: all opinions expressed are just that]

    step 1) tighten toe clips well...and...do NOT run a brake (and if you do run one, NEVER touch it)
    step 2) ride your bike a lot (preferrably in ALL weather and terrain conditions, rain, sleet, snow, ice, drought, grass, gravel, downhill, uphill)

    tada!

    if you have yet to accidentally skid, you're prob riding too ungullily (possibly a good thing)...so, proceed to ultimate step 3.

    step 3) go somewhere where you have space to comfortably get up to speed, plenty of room to stop, and few obstacles... ok,so...you're moving pretty well (not too excessive of a cadence)...now, even tho you have let's say 100m free in front of you...pick a spot on the road (or anything else) that is WAY too close for you to stop in front of...and simply resist those pedals as if your life depended on it...you MUST stop before that point!
    you WILL skidd
    for the gully of heart....practice step 3 in traffic...preferably in a school zone at around 3pm
    again..you WILL skidd...you do not want an angry mother beating down that assss with an umbrella because you came within' 10 ft of her 8 year old


    ....
    all that weight forward ish is bogus...
    yea...it can be fun....I didn't learn that ish till WAY after I was power skidding down hills...and by that time, it was ridiculously easy and unusefull...
    it is NOT a necessary to learn that ish first
    ...

    done procrastonating...that was fun

  2. #2
    Taking "s" outta "Fast" AfterThisNap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Zoo York City
    Posts
    1,989
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    wow, that's hardcore. You get a cookie shaped like a skull and was baked whilst listening to death metal.

  3. #3
    roll'em high shants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    columbus, ohio
    Posts
    2,392
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    worst advice ever.

  4. #4
    Vanned. worker4youth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    My Bikes
    2006 Motobecane Le Champ SL, 2006 Mercier Kilo TT, 2004 Gary Fisher Tassajara
    Posts
    1,244
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You invented quite a few new words there.

  5. #5
    dances with bicycle 46x17's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    SF
    Posts
    1,683
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think it is great!... after all, you must be in water to learn how to swim.

    The only point I don't agree with is the weight shift. You must unweight your rear even if it is just for a split second in order to lock up. No leaning forward necessary but a quick unweighting even if you are sitting down is needed unless you run a very, very low gear or are trying to really injure yourself.
    Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.
    -- Soren Kierkegaard

  6. #6
    jack of one or two trades Aeroplane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Suburbia, CT
    My Bikes
    Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
    Posts
    5,636
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's got some good points, but here's a couple things to consider:

    If you've got tall gearing 52-16 or thereabouts, skidding just by willing yourself to (as your method could be called) will NOT happen. Leaning over the front IS necessary to get a skid started if your legs aren't strong enough and/or your gearing is too high.

    Good point about the brakes. Front brake + skidding = endo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Irwin Goldstein
    Men should never ride bicycles. Riding should be banned and outlawed. It is
    the most irrational form of exercise I could ever bring to discussion.

  7. #7
    live free or die trying humancongereel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    where i lay my head is home.
    My Bikes
    bianchi pista workhorse, cannondale r1000, mountain bike fixed conversion
    Posts
    6,999
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    heh, that sounds like my method. my first skid was just me going "oh, ****, i don't want to go into that busy instersection!"

    you do have to unweight the back wheel, as far as i'm concerened, but actually leaning is for distance. skidding to actually stop, um...you don't wanna lean forward "balls on the stem" style.

  8. #8
    Senior Member eddiebrannan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NYC
    My Bikes
    DW
    Posts
    3,363
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by 46x17
    No leaning forward necessary but a quick unweighting even if you are sitting down is needed

    i actually just fart

  9. #9
    Car magnet
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Savannah, Georgia
    My Bikes
    80's Hoffy track frame 49x15, 80's guerciotti track 47x15(destroyd by a car), '78 ross conversion(RIP, died of old age), '06 fuji track(RIP, hit by a trolley), '75 Alan Aluminum(in the works)
    Posts
    435
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by 46x17
    You must unweight your rear even if it is just for a split second in order to lock up.
    I beg to differ, I rode a 45x15 on my old ross conversion and i could skip and skid while sitting down on the seat, no unweighting necessarry.
    "That thing is a death trap"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Valiant
    Fence post tubing?
    We need to clone people like you.

  10. #10
    ONE DOWN, FIVE UP...
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    McKinney, TX
    My Bikes
    LOOK KG281, Bianchi Pista, Fuji Roubaix
    Posts
    1,462
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    So, is this good or bad advice for a fixed gear newbie? I recently started riding my Pista more and more in fixed mode opposed to single speed mode. I feel like I have pretty good control by using just my legs and not the front brake. I have yet to skid though. Should I just give myself more time or should I start following the advice given above. BTW...I am running 46/18 gearing combo.
    2007 Specialized Tarmac Expert
    2005 Fuji Track Pro
    2007 Bianchi San Jose

  11. #11
    dances with bicycle 46x17's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    SF
    Posts
    1,683
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by metallo pesante
    I beg to differ, I rode a 45x15 on my old ross conversion and i could skip and skid while sitting down on the seat, no unweighting necessarry.
    So just to confirm you were sittig with all your weight on the seat and could lock up your rear wheel. No pushing against the handlebars or even the slightest shifting of weight? Simply amazing! Must be some legs you got!

    I can lock it up and remain seated too, but I still shift my weight slightly.
    Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.
    -- Soren Kierkegaard

  12. #12
    keep it pretend visitordesign's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    1,761
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by metallo pesante
    I beg to differ, I rode a 45x15 on my old ross conversion and i could skip and skid while sitting down on the seat, no unweighting necessarry.
    i do that on 48/49 x 16 too. i couldn't at first though.

    edit: but there is a slight unweighting or forward thrust--even when seated.

  13. #13
    dances with bicycle 46x17's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    SF
    Posts
    1,683
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by visitordesign
    edit: but there is a slight unweighting or forward thrust--even when seated.
    Exactly what I am talking about. "Thrust" is a great word to describe it! For a bystander I will look like seated skip/skid (and it is) but there is a small little punch/thrust/shift/tensing of the body that preceeds the skid/skip.
    Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.
    -- Soren Kierkegaard

  14. #14
    live free or die trying humancongereel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    where i lay my head is home.
    My Bikes
    bianchi pista workhorse, cannondale r1000, mountain bike fixed conversion
    Posts
    6,999
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinmcdade
    So, is this good or bad advice for a fixed gear newbie? I recently started riding my Pista more and more in fixed mode opposed to single speed mode. I feel like I have pretty good control by using just my legs and not the front brake. I have yet to skid though. Should I just give myself more time or should I start following the advice given above. BTW...I am running 46/18 gearing combo.
    stop worrying about it. one day you'll end up skipping (a mini-skid, if you will), to avoid traffic, and you'll realize you have to sustain it for a longer time to slow yourself down and, voila! you're skidding. only in that case is it really important. otherwise, it's a trick, not something useful, so it's cool, but nothing to trouble yourself about. if you want to practice skidding, just skip, but hold your legs in that position once the wheel comes down again, even though the pedals will try to move them.

    once you get the safety skid (and yeah, i think skids can be useful in some situations), then just lean forward when you skid if you want to skid for distance.

  15. #15
    Banned. teiaperigosa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    40th, up in the 30th
    Posts
    1,694
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinmcdade
    So, is this good or bad advice for a fixed gear newbie? I recently started riding my Pista more and more in fixed mode opposed to single speed mode. I feel like I have pretty good control by using just my legs and not the front brake. I have yet to skid though. Should I just give myself more time or should I start following the advice given above. BTW...I am running 46/18 gearing combo.
    YES!...this is GOOD advice!...that's how many of us learned, and that's why I gave it

    and...I agree with 46x17's clarification, you do unweight the bike before your resist [just not aero-ed over the front wheel]...at least it is much easier that way...the extent of unweighting is similar (almost exact)to going over a pot hole...you just can't be lazy in the seat

  16. #16
    Taking "s" outta "Fast" AfterThisNap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Zoo York City
    Posts
    1,989
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

  17. #17
    Hello. crushkilldstroy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    West Seattle
    Posts
    2,902
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by worker4youth
    You invented quite a few new words there.

    i'm enjoying "ungullily." i'm adding it to my vocabulary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacquie Phelan
    Until mountain biking came along, the bike scene was ruled by a small elite cadre of people who seemed allergic to enthusiasm.

  18. #18
    i am sure that i hate you spud's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    703
    My Bikes
    'Cha-ruzu Fosuta Orusan Kein' Fuji Track (2005), Schwinn Tank MTB (?), Fuji Royale (1979)
    Posts
    3,230
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by shants
    worst advice ever.
    +1
    putting the pi back in pirate!
    Itís an upstanding member of the solar system
    Apply the laws of earth and make it a victim
    Of Proposition 187

  19. #19
    not the jam
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Bridgeport, Chicago
    My Bikes
    IRO Jamie Roy and many others
    Posts
    109
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by metallo pesante
    I beg to differ, I rode a 45x15 on my old ross conversion and i could skip and skid while sitting down on the seat, no unweighting necessarry.
    The act of resisting the pedals or backpedaling automatically unweights you even if you remain seated.

  20. #20
    hell's angels h/q e3st ny brunop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    boston area/morningside heights manhattan
    My Bikes
    surly steamroller, independent fabrication titanium club racer, iro jamie roy--44/16, independent fabrication steel crown jewel--47/17, surly karate. monkey (rohloff speed hub), unicycle
    Posts
    1,582
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    my rear tire is now officially toast. i got too skid-happy. i will now only skid seriously and not just for kicks. really.

  21. #21
    Banned. teiaperigosa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    40th, up in the 30th
    Posts
    1,694
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    throw a michelin into your rotation...

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •