Lockring/Chainwhip Tool
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Lockring/Chainwhip Tool
So, I just picked up my new wheelset from Yojimbo's and I'm all excited to throw 'em on & take 'em for a spin. Problem is, no cog. This wouldn't be a problem if I still had the proper tools to transfer old cog to new wheel, but I can't find it/them anywhere.
I used to have the 15mm wrench, lockring wrench, chainwhip combo from NYCBikes. Crappy, but got the job done.
In its absence, I was going to order the double-sided Hozan lockring wrench & a Wheels Mfg 1/8" chainwhip for ~$20 apiece.
However, I just saw this on Ebay for 40 bucks. Anyone have any experience with/ comments on this tool? Am I better off with the two separate tools above, or would you combine them?
I used to have the 15mm wrench, lockring wrench, chainwhip combo from NYCBikes. Crappy, but got the job done.
In its absence, I was going to order the double-sided Hozan lockring wrench & a Wheels Mfg 1/8" chainwhip for ~$20 apiece.
However, I just saw this on Ebay for 40 bucks. Anyone have any experience with/ comments on this tool? Am I better off with the two separate tools above, or would you combine them?
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i have the dura ace tool. i've learned to hate it. the lockring part ate up my phil LR's the first time i tried to use it. the chainwhip part dangerously skips off of 15 tooth cogs.
aside from those 2 specific caveats, it's ok on DA LR's and seems to be alright on 14, 16 and 17 tooth cogs.
aside from those 2 specific caveats, it's ok on DA LR's and seems to be alright on 14, 16 and 17 tooth cogs.
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I have tried to use those chainwhip/lockring tools and usually end up angry because they always slip. You be better off with two separate tools. I now use the hozan lockring wrench and have had great luck. I would highly recommend it. It makes changing cogs a super easy because you can actually grab a hold of it to loosen it.
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Originally Posted by 1fluffhead
I have tried to use those chainwhip/lockring tools and usually end up angry because they always slip. You be better off with two separate tools. I now use the hozan lockring wrench and have had great luck. I would highly recommend it. It makes changing cogs a super easy because you can actually grab a hold of it to loosen it.
Maybe I just answered my own question.
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I have this
https://cgi.ebay.com/HOZAN-LOCKRING-P...QQcmdZViewItem
Sorry. I just realized I typed wrench when I meant pliers. I have used/bought some of the multi-tools and always come to the same conclusion that none of the tools on the multi work well and I would be better off buying each tool individually if I want the tools to work right for me. Kinda what you said
https://cgi.ebay.com/HOZAN-LOCKRING-P...QQcmdZViewItem
Sorry. I just realized I typed wrench when I meant pliers. I have used/bought some of the multi-tools and always come to the same conclusion that none of the tools on the multi work well and I would be better off buying each tool individually if I want the tools to work right for me. Kinda what you said
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i have a similar tool from NYCbikes. $10 I think.
It's fine for most uses. The problem is that when you use the non-whip side, the chain flops around. Kind of a pain.
It's fine for most uses. The problem is that when you use the non-whip side, the chain flops around. Kind of a pain.
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call up john at business cycles... or email him... hes got a dura ace tool thats a chainwhip/lockring tool for like 30 bucks.
when i bought mine he referred to it as a "cute little tool" and i agree.
when i bought mine he referred to it as a "cute little tool" and i agree.
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Originally Posted by dommer
call up john at business cycles... or email him... hes got a dura ace tool thats a chainwhip/lockring tool for like 30 bucks.
when i bought mine he referred to it as a "cute little tool" and i agree.
when i bought mine he referred to it as a "cute little tool" and i agree.
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Call Marcus up and ask him if he has a set of pliers, or a wrench for sale. When I was there in December he did not have any pliers, but he did have a wrench on sale. If not, I am sure you can stop by and get a quick swap in shop.
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We don't sell the multi-tool anymore, it was a nice pocket tool, but since people expected it to be a bench tool we shelved it until we could produce a more solid model (though solid equals to heavy/too long to be a take along unless it's made from precious metals).
The slipping problems a lot of people encounter are caused a lot of times by mismatching chainwhip with cog. Most chainwhips are designed for multi-speed 3/32 chains, and won't fit over 1/8 cogs completely - conversely 1/8 whips are loose and provide a little too much play when used on a 3/32 cog. An inexpensive bar whip with the right chain will work a lot better than the most expensive whip with the wrong chain.
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The slipping problems a lot of people encounter are caused a lot of times by mismatching chainwhip with cog. Most chainwhips are designed for multi-speed 3/32 chains, and won't fit over 1/8 cogs completely - conversely 1/8 whips are loose and provide a little too much play when used on a 3/32 cog. An inexpensive bar whip with the right chain will work a lot better than the most expensive whip with the wrong chain.
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Originally Posted by nycbikes
We don't sell the multi-tool anymore, it was a nice pocket tool, but since people expected it to be a bench tool we shelved it until we could produce a more solid model (though solid equals to heavy/too long to be a take along unless it's made from precious metals).
The slipping problems a lot of people encounter are caused a lot of times by mismatching chainwhip with cog. Most chainwhips are designed for multi-speed 3/32 chains, and won't fit over 1/8 cogs completely - conversely 1/8 whips are loose and provide a little too much play when used on a 3/32 cog. An inexpensive bar whip with the right chain will work a lot better than the most expensive whip with the wrong chain.
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The slipping problems a lot of people encounter are caused a lot of times by mismatching chainwhip with cog. Most chainwhips are designed for multi-speed 3/32 chains, and won't fit over 1/8 cogs completely - conversely 1/8 whips are loose and provide a little too much play when used on a 3/32 cog. An inexpensive bar whip with the right chain will work a lot better than the most expensive whip with the wrong chain.
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nope. the dura ace tool has a 1/8" chain. it slips because chainwhips are a pain in the a$$.
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the dura ace tool has a 1/8" chain. it slips because chainwhips are a pain in the a$$.
Almost always the fault is not with the tool, but with user.
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f that s...just get an old piece of chain and wrap it around the cog...then use a vice preferably a vice that's mounted to a table
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or remove cog via the reverse-rota-fixa method... easy as pie.
i have that dura-ace chainwhip-lockring tool. i love it and use it as much as i possibly can. never failed or slipped once.
i have that dura-ace chainwhip-lockring tool. i love it and use it as much as i possibly can. never failed or slipped once.